so... say your plants turned out to be feminised auto-flowering reuteralis? you are in week five of veg and you have large pistol formation, and bud sites starting to show... what would be the best way to treat the plants? should light cycles be switched to 12/12? would you leave tthem the same? also if at 5 weeks your crop was hitting the point of no return(less than 2 feet from a sodium light that cannot be raised any more[about 4.5 feet]) what are the effects of topping?

i would include some pictures but the babies are at a friends house and i wont see them till tomorrow, ill get some pics up then tho because these things are impresive (imho).

any advice for a newbie who started this out as a joke would be greatly appreciated... ive heard that spraying should be discontinued at this point, ive been using a diluted 10-15-10 leaf feeder for them till now... i use the full strength for regular feeding... pro-mix for the medium with some kind of 9 month time released food 8-14-12, i feed 400ml of water too my 5 liter buckets split between two feedings a day, its like 3.5feet, by 2.5 feet, by 6 feet tall, with a 400w hps standard spectrum industrial supply lamp and one of the plants has reached about a foot taller than the others, things are going so well i dont want to fuck anything up now

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one time i thought i would grow weed,
my girlfriend thought i would not.
i didnt see vagina for twenty days,
and now i have no pot.

well, as it sounds, you invested into low rider strained seeds since they start to flower without you cuttin the light cycle. as far as i know there is nothing to do to stop them from flowering once it has started.
you could still top them but it would cut the yield, so tying them down is the only good way to go.
by the way, it is odd that they stretched that much if it is low rider, this strain hardly ever makes it to 2ft., did you fixed those MH to the sealing or what did you to screw it up that badly??

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keep the thumb green and the gun oiled, !

well, i hope i didnt screw anything up too badly, ive been spending my time learning, and this is me building experiance. i dont have mh lights, i have a 400w hps setup, before i had that i had about 275w of cool white and and daylight cfl and 1.5"floro tubes. what i have learned is that the large(9 inch) 11-13 leaved fan leafs are indicitive of a strong indica native to dry arid regions of the world ive seen pictures of people standing on chairs pruning plants like this 7-9 feet in height(i was told they were afghani, which fits) 13 leafed sets are a result regularly of genetic manipulation which could be explained by the feminization of the seeds they sprouted from... ive labeled them as a strand of reuteralis due too the unusually fast onset of a flowering stage mixxed with near uncontrolable growth. the stretch was phoenominal, i found myself raising the light at least an inch a day about 2 weeks after introducing my hps to the environment with one plant stretching visually faster than the others(they range in differance of height by almost 2 feet which could be because the buckets are all different sizes).

my questions are not concerning the steps i have taken to this point (with all due respect) they are concerning the steps i should take from here. today they cannot all be the same distance from the light (radical differance in height) bending is somthing i have concidered, but to do so would be to cover other plants(they are all right against each other)

now, may be a newbie, and this may be the closest ive ever gotten to a living plant, but ive been a lover of the fruits of my passion for many years now, and when i look at these plants, i feel that nothing is screwed up thus far (again imho). the things i speak of are a culmination of the stories/experiances/videos ive gathered from places like here and erowid, so i am open to constructive criticisim, but plz dont call my babiez screw ups.

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one time i thought i would grow weed,
my girlfriend thought i would not.
i didnt see vagina for twenty days,
and now i have no pot.

one more thing i have learned.... long periods of time looking at somthing in a hps light can give you a tan. and long periods of time with clones (floro's) will make you more sensitive to other lights, increasing residual "tracers" produced by things like street lights or incandescent lights in your field of vision.

i now have a pair of goggles, designed for daytime snowboarding. but the damage done to ones vision over a very short time period by bright lights will only regenerate to an expected 70% of original efficency.

anyone steping into a grow room with any regularity should research the effect of high intensity lights on the eyes. if the sun creates aprox 10000 lumen per square ft on a summer day, and your light produces 7000-8000 lumen per square foot, staring at your closet can be 7/10ths to 3/4ths the intensity of staring at somthing outside on a summer day, and you are supposed to wear uv protection for the eyes on summer days.

sudden exposure to lights can even produces ulcers(blisters) on the eyeball

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one time i thought i would grow weed,
my girlfriend thought i would not.
i didnt see vagina for twenty days,
and now i have no pot.

I hate to pipe in with bad news, but that type of marijuana is typically very low in thc, and not commonly grown, usually growers use either a sativa or indica.
Heres some info for ya:
Situated: Limited to parts of Russia and Central Asia.
Leaf type: Wide but small
Number of leaf blades: 4 – 6 blades per leaf.
Leaf colour: Dark green.
Height: Small (less than 4 feet).
Stems: Thick.
Nodes: Very short with lots of branches.
Seeds: Large seeds.
Buds: Dense buds with a low THC.
Fibre: Ruderalis is not suitable for producing fibre.
Psychic effect: Low THC so minimal effects.
Flowering: Short flowering period. Flowers early and when growing indoors can go into bud irrespective of the lighting period.

well...thank you for the info, what you described is actually nothing like my plant... other than the fact that it used to be short and is a relatively dark color, ill let ya know what the result is

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one time i thought i would grow weed,
my girlfriend thought i would not.
i didnt see vagina for twenty days,
and now i have no pot.

Geez Robot boy, you are the one who sais it was a ruderalis, not me. I was just sharing the info on it with you.
It sounds like it is too, it is (1) short (2) dark (3) auto-flowering, that last one is the clincher too.

sorry mr. videoman... not meaning to sound snappy, just stickin up for my babiez im sure you understand.

i have decided while watching these things on my own that they are a reuteralis strand... but when it comes down to it, i dont know much more than what these plants have been telling me as they grow, ive included a picture of what i know about marijuana.

this plant is quite dark, but tall and very young, also notice the gargantuous 11 leafed fan... and then i hope you tell me that it has some thc in it (or will). im gonna keep growin it for now cuz hey, ive already put my heart in the closet. i got the seeds for free through a winfall but they did cost somone alot of money. also somone took the time to feminize them for some reason

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one time i thought i would grow weed,
my girlfriend thought i would not.
i didnt see vagina for twenty days,
and now i have no pot.

These are low rider's at one month old. Yours look more sativa looking to me.

These strains also auto flower:
Guerilla Gold
-GG(earlygold/Mightymite)
-MasterWonderSkunk(E.W.S crossed with a MasterLow)
-EarlyWonderSkunk & EarlyBramble

Heres some more info on ruderalis
The return of Ruderalis
I am not sure what you have.

lowryder 2 autoflowering marijuana seeds

There's an auto-flowering thc-producing thing. I think it's awesome.