Wal-Mart: The Asshole of America - Page 3

lovethegreen · #21 05-08-2008, 01:26 PM

With the raising coast of fuel have no worries wal-mart will not be able to maintain low prices for long. They ship a ton of shit from china thats a 12,000 mile supply line before anything has hit the shelfs. Then it has to go for the dock to their stores. Fuel prices will soon put walmart in check. Or atleast thats my feelings on the subject.

Muddy Paws · #22 05-08-2008, 01:59 PM

I fuckin love Wal-Mart.

XSiL3nTX · #23 05-08-2008, 02:00 PM

Bashing on walmart is stupid! You're probably one of those rednecks who Walmart put out of business. I shop at walmart for everything and its a great store with great prices. Don't get mad because walmart put your rinky dink store out of business. Walmart has EVERYTHING you can think of put into 1 store and that saves people time and money. I hate it when people do this shit....It's stupid! why bash walmart? because it put you out of business???? Too bad...

PS: American economy is already down the shitter and its going down like a hooker on nickel fridays. China is putting America out of business because American labor is too expensive. Why pay more, when you can get the same labor for much cheaper?

Picasso345 · #24 05-08-2008, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by XSiL3nTX

Bashing on walmart is stupid! You're probably one of those rednecks who Walmart put out of business. I shop at walmart for everything and its a great store with great prices. Don't get mad because walmart put your rinky dink store out of business. Walmart has EVERYTHING you can think of put into 1 store and that saves people time and money. I hate it when people do this shit....It's stupid! why bash walmart? because it put you out of business???? Too bad...

PS: American economy is already down the shitter and its going down like a hooker on nickel fridays. China is putting America out of business because American labor is too expensive. Why pay more, when you can get the same labor for much cheaper?

Your post makes sad for the amount of misinformation you have accumulated and the hate you are spewing. You might want to look into that, it isn't healthy.

refeermadness · #25 05-08-2008, 02:29 PM

i work at a machine shop and it's true what xsil3ntx is saying. everything is getting sent over to china i see it everyday. china seems to be better with mass production and price's then the US the only reason my shop is still open is because we deal with precise measurements and china just seems to fuck it up. but ya don't hate on wal-mart i go there on a weekly basis it's cheap i don't have to drive all around getting my shit wasting more GAS. i also think this tax stimulus is gonna end up fucking us more then helping in the end. i don't see how throwing money at a problem can solve it when money is the problem LOL

kronicsmurf · #26 05-08-2008, 02:34 PM

Why not buy from walmart? you can buy just about everything needed to grow at walmart and at good prices. maybe you can afford higher prices but i can't and even if i could i'd save a buck and shop there anyway. if walmart has bad business practices don't blame the customers blame the company.

Auzzie07 · #27 05-08-2008, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by XSiL3nTX

Bashing on walmart is stupid! You're probably one of those rednecks who Walmart put out of business. I shop at walmart for everything and its a great store with great prices. Don't get mad because walmart put your rinky dink store out of business. Walmart has EVERYTHING you can think of put into 1 store and that saves people time and money. I hate it when people do this shit....It's stupid! why bash walmart? because it put you out of business???? Too bad...

PS: American economy is already down the shitter and its going down like a hooker on nickel fridays. China is putting America out of business because American labor is too expensive. Why pay more, when you can get the same labor for much cheaper?

You totally just based your whole argument on the fact that I'm a redneck whose store was run out of business. Seeing as this is not true, your whole argument goes to hell. And if anyone is the redneck here, then it would be you for your "guess-and-check" arguing skills. Your weak, and downright pitiful, ethics are disgusting to say the least.

But just so I don't sink to your level and make ridiculous claims with no support:

You say, why pay more when you get can the same labor for much cheaper? Well look at it this way, a company (Wal-Mart) spends money on foreign labor (often times it is illegal by American law as it is usually child labor, long hours, unsafe working conditions, etc.) the money we spent on that labor goes right back to the foreign country's economy, not ours. If you really like funding the Chinese economy so much, you may want to take a permanent vacation there.

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Originally Posted by kronicsmurf

Why not buy from walmart? you can buy just about everything needed to grow at walmart and at good prices. maybe you can afford higher prices but i can't and even if i could i'd save a buck and shop there anyway. if walmart has bad business practices don't blame the customers blame the company.

I wasn't blaming the consumer in this situation, I'm blaming the company by all means. It's a choice you make, and although I may not agree with it. It is your choice.

From Wal-Mart's Statement of Ethics:
OUR THREE BASIC BELIEFS
When Sam Walton founded Wal-Mart Stores, Inc. (“Wal-Mart”), he established the
“Three Basic Beliefs” to which we remain firmly committed:
◊ Respect for the Individual
(Note: Respect for the individual usually means respecting all genders)
◊ Service to our Customers
◊ Strive for Excellence
The Three Basic Beliefs go hand in hand with the integrity and ethical conduct that is the
foundation of our business.

GUIDING ETHICAL PRINCIPLES
As Wal-Mart Associates and Directors, we must:
• Follow the law at all times; (Note: See this $11 million settlement.)
• Be honest and fair;
• Never manipulate, misrepresent, abuse or conceal information; (Note: Here is what Wal-Mart has really done about their new 'Green' initiative.)
• Avoid conflicts of interest between work and personal affairs;
• Never discriminate against anyone; (Note: You would think that this would be especially important towards the customer, but here are not one but two cases of Wal-Mart employees not accepting checks from African-Americans.)
• Never act unethically - even if someone else instructs you to do so;
• Never ask someone to act unethically;
• Seek assistance if you have questions about this Statement of Ethics or if you face an ethical dilemma;
• Cooperate with any investigation of a possible ethics violation; and
• Report ethics violations or suspected violations.

I could go on and on finding disparities between their 'Code of Ethics' and their actions, but... well, here are a few more:
- Hiring illegal immigrants (1 - 2)
- Logging in Russian forests where endangered tigers live
- Illegal anti-union tactics
- And on...
- And on again ...

Like I said, you all can make your own decision, but if you have any compassion towards your fellow human beings, because in the end we are all the same, you'll at least realize what Wal-Mart is doing. Even if you continue to shop there, at least recognize what is going on behind that big smiley face.

XSiL3nTX · #28 05-08-2008, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Auzzie07

You totally just based your whole argument on the fact that I'm a redneck whose store was run out of business. Seeing as this is not true, your whole argument goes to hell. And if anyone is the redneck here, then it would be you for your "guess-and-check" arguing skills. Your weak, and downright pitiful, ethics are disgusting to say the least.

But just so I don't sink to your level and make ridiculous claims with no support:

You say, why pay more when you get can the same labor for much cheaper? Well look at it this way, a company (Wal-Mart) spends money on foreign labor (often times it is illegal by American law as it is usually child labor, long hours, unsafe working conditions, etc.) the money we spent on that labor goes right back to the foreign country's economy, not ours. If you really like funding the Chinese economy so much, you may want to take a permanent vacation there.

I wasn't blaming the consumer in this situation, I'm blaming the company by all means. It's a choice you make, and although I may not agree with it. It is your choice.

From Wal-Mart's Statement of Ethics:
OUR THREE BASIC BELIEFS
When Sam Walton founded Wal-Mart Stores, Inc. (“Wal-Mart”), he established the
“Three Basic Beliefs” to which we remain firmly committed:
◊ Respect for the Individual
(Note: Respect for the individual usually means respecting all genders)
◊ Service to our Customers
◊ Strive for Excellence
The Three Basic Beliefs go hand in hand with the integrity and ethical conduct that is the
foundation of our business.

GUIDING ETHICAL PRINCIPLES
As Wal-Mart Associates and Directors, we must:
• Follow the law at all times; (Note: See this $11 million settlement.)
• Be honest and fair;
• Never manipulate, misrepresent, abuse or conceal information; (Note: Here is what Wal-Mart has really done about their new 'Green' initiative.)
• Avoid conflicts of interest between work and personal affairs;
• Never discriminate against anyone; (Note: You would think that this would be especially important towards the customer, but here are not one but two cases of Wal-Mart employees not accepting checks from African-Americans.)
• Never act unethically - even if someone else instructs you to do so;
• Never ask someone to act unethically;
• Seek assistance if you have questions about this Statement of Ethics or if you face an ethical dilemma;
• Cooperate with any investigation of a possible ethics violation; and
• Report ethics violations or suspected violations.

I could go on and on finding disparities between their 'Code of Ethics' and their actions, but... well, here are a few more:
- Hiring illegal immigrants (1 - 2)
- Logging in Russian forests where endangered tigers live
- Illegal anti-union tactics
- And on...
- And on again ...

Like I said, you all can make your own decision, but if you have any compassion towards your fellow human beings, because in the end we are all the same, you'll at least realize what Wal-Mart is doing. Even if you continue to shop there, at least recognize what is going on behind that big smiley face.

Haha weak arguement? My arguement is that you're wasting your time on bullshit things that serve no purpose. Bitch all you want, but you're not going to change a thing. You're an idiot for wasting your time by researching all this when it serves no purpose. Dude go fly a kite...seriously and go pull your head out your ass.

I'm about to go to walmart right now and go buy my chinese products. Thanks!

SimpleSimon · #29 05-08-2008, 03:56 PM

Wal-mart = global warming. Your going to fry bitch!!

GrowBigOrGrowHome · #30 05-08-2008, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by XSiL3nTX

Haha weak arguement? My arguement is that you're wasting your time on bullshit things that serve no purpose. Bitch all you want, but you're not going to change a thing. You're an idiot for wasting your time by researching all this when it serves no purpose. Dude go fly a kite...seriously and go pull your head out your ass.

I'm about to go to walmart right now and go buy my chinese products. Thanks!

He's just trying to tell people about the truth. That is never a waste of time in my opinion.

And as far as not being able to do anything about it, there have been several boycots in recent American history that has changed some of the practices of major corporations. If people got together and boycotted Walmart becuase of how they don't give back to communities, how they treat their employees, it could make a difference. I can't directly control what Walmart does, but I can control whether I give them my hard earned cash or not. In my opinion, it's an important part of being a global citizen.

You don't agree, that's fine with me. I'm open to other people's opinions. But why are you so hostile about it?