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Obama touts smart grid grants

By Michael A. Fletcher
ARCADIA, Fla. -- President Obama announced Tuesday $3.4 billion in grants for "smart meters," updated transformers, and other devices that he called the largest energy grid modernization investment in the nation's history.

The federal money, which was part of the $787 billion economic stimulus package, will pay for a broad range of technologies aimed at making the nation's power transmission system more efficient, reliable and adaptable to renewable energy sources such as wind and solar.

Speaking in front of some of the solar cells that make up nation's largest solar to electricity plant here, Obama said the investment is long overdue and he called it essential to ushering in a future of clean, renewable energy.
"There's something big happening in America in terms of creating a clean-energy economy," Obama said.
Obama said a modern grid could give consumers better control over their electricity usage and costs, and spur development of renewable energy sources such as wind and solar.

The current electrical grid still "runs on century-old technology," Obama said, adding that the upgrades will allow it to be "more secure and more reliable."
The grants have been awarded to 100 different utilities and other businesses, cities, which in turn have promised to spend another $4.7 billion in private money on the so-called "smart grid." Before making his remarks, Obama toured the DeSoto Next Generation Solar Energy Center, which includes 180 acres of solar cells stretched across open fields. The plant is designed to generate enough power for about 3,000 homes, according to Florida Power & Light, the local electric company.

Obama's appearance here was part of the administration's effort to showcase the job-producing potential of the economic stimulus plan, which has come under harsh criticism from Republicans and other critics who call it ineffective as the nation's unemployment rate has climbed to 9.8 percent.

The administration is counting on the renewable energy sector to be a huge source of jobs in the future as the nation emerges from its deep recession. In his remarks, Obama said the electrical grid spending would create tens of thousands of new jobs for factory workers, installers, system designers and others.

In Delaware, Vice President Biden Tuesday celebrated plans to reopen a shuttered General Motors plant in Wilmington to produce long-range, plug-in, electric hybrid vehicles.

The Wilmington plant will be used by luxury automaker Fisker to produce the cars, a venture that is fueled by a $529 million Energy Department loan and is expected to create 2,000 factory jobs and as many as 3,000 support jobs.

"While some wanted to write off America's auto industry, we said no. We knew that we needed to do something different -- in Delaware and all across the nation," Biden said. "We understood a new chapter had to be written, a new chapter in which we strengthen American manufacturing by investing in innovation."

Administration officials envision plug-in hybrids and other electric vehicles becoming a key cog in the nation's developing smart grid. Smart meters will allow car owners to charge their vehicles when electricity demand and prices are lowest and also when power from intermittent renewable resources like wind and solar are more available. Ultimately, consumers might be able to sell an unneeded portion of the battery's charge back to the grid."

I don't suppose GE is going to benefit from these tax dollars...

General Electric: Obama's Halliburton?

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This is the best thing he has done so far. he needs to focus on the USA and not the world... he needs to close all military bases across the globe (except here at home) and bring the troops home... 50% of our taxes go to this massive death machine of a military.. he could cut that in half and use the xtra 25% saved on investing in the USA

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The smart grid is all in the plan of taking away the choices of the individual. the smart grid will give control of ur A/C unit or heat, back to the government.

Think you can run ur A/C system all the time in the summer.... think again. The smart grid will simply time ur unit out and cut the power.

It's all part of the plan to centralize all power through the govt.

It will be a nightmare.....

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HAHAHA I doubt that! The smart grid is just upgrading our 100 year old grid with newer wireing and technology. Its a good start but the real answer is for people to become independent from the grid. For those who can afford to do so, should install solar panels, wind turbines, and geothermal systems on their houses/businesses. Then they wont half to pay the electricity bills but just the bills for the systems they install locally on their property. And these will pay for themselves in 20-30 years. So for anybody who owns their home and plan on staying there for this duration, it will pay for itself!

The smart grid is good but i disagree on how its being financed. It should not be done by the government but rather private corporations or locals.

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You can doubt all you want to.... I'm sure you do it all the time... but it's true enough. It's coming to you....whether you like it or not. Oh, and you can expect your energy costs to go up by as much as 90% too.


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Im glad the smart grid is coming to me! Ive studied this topic alot in college and there are no down falls to having a smart grid. It will save energy, cut cost because the power plants wont half to produce as much electricty to light up all the homes, plus it puts new lines on the grid so that we can eventually start ramping up the renewable sector. I will gladly pay extra money for cleanner smarter energy! And if i dont like the cost of electricty then ill just unplug and get some solar panels. Having electricty isnt a fundamental right of anybody, its a luxery

Plus this will help prevent all the rolling black outs happening in cali... in turn that will help us growers from having hermie plants due to the timed light variations

people not smart enough to unplug go bahhh bahh bahhh cause there to dumb to get educated

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Dark side of a bright idea
But others see a darker side. Utility companies, by gathering hundreds of billions of data points about us, could reconstruct much of our daily lives -- when we wake up, when we go home, when we go on vacation, perhaps even when we draw a hot bath. They might sell this information to marketing companies -- perhaps a travel agency will send brochures right when the family vacation is about to arrive. Law enforcement officials might use this information against us ("Where were you last night? Home watching TV? That's not what the power company says … ”). Divorce lawyers could subpoena the data ("You say you're a good parent, but your children are forced to sleep in 61-degree rooms. For shame ..."). A credit bureau or insurance company could penalize you because your energy use patterns are similar to those of other troublesome consumers. Or criminals could spy the data, then plan home burglaries with fine-tuned accuracy.

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Your talking about a worse case senerio of a communist or dictatorship country. Its plausible that it could happen but that's not what this smart grid is designed for. Its simply designed to reroute electricity traveling at high speeds thru the major power lines. So that electricity can be redistributed to areas of the country needing it more then the areas that have plenty of it.

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No, I'm talking about the green movement coupled with a society that will be spinning out of control in debt. Costs will go up, and service will go down.

Anything controlled by the govt. costs far more than it should and works far less than is promised..... every single time..... as if written in stone.... but ppl today are so weak minded, they still gravitate to the govt. teat.

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yah well there is no argueing that the gov fucks things up.... the green movement is good and could be a hell of a sucess if the gov would close shop on half there agencies and cut the miliatry in 1/3

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