The banking system is what allows huge sums of capital to be gathered and funneled to people who MAKE things happen. I.E. .. technology. You can slip in another monetary system, but the results would be mind numbingly miserable compared to a central bank. Of course democracy would be dead in the water as well. I'm trying to see an upside to it, but nope...


You say it is critical thinking that gets you ahead... I suggest you reexamine your info. Go live in Iran if you want the rush of a non central banking system...of course you won't have a standard of living...but your position dictates you are willing to give that up...

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You haven't countered nothing, because the points you made are not valid, you are basing your counter on information you don't understand, regardless the accuracy of the information, because it does not state what you are saying.. (Brazko)

How would not having a central bank lower our standards of living?


You know that Giant national debt clock in the USA thats running at Tens of Trillions of dollars? Who do you think that debt is owed too?? CENTRAL BANKS


I strongly disagree that central banks make things possible. Do you really believe that Central Banks have enabled the human race to come up with new technology????

If it wasn't for massive profit there would be NO central banks. Period.


I dont entirely have a problem with the system, but when banks are taking loans to pay off the interest from Other Loans then Thats a fucking problem. Central banks should NOT be able to print money as debt.

Central banks print money out of this air, and loan it out with INTEREST....If they are making money and not backing it with anything of value they should Not be able to charge interest on that money. Its a fucking joke and the Banksters win.

When this 50 year pyramid scheme ends whos gonna pay the bill? Not the banks....Its the people who are in massive debt and losing homes right now....

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I'm curious Have you ever actually been to Iran? What makes you believe they have no standards of living? The news?

Do you just go by what you hear on the news media thats all owned by.....wait a second....the same Banksters who run the central banks.

Im not saying Iran doesnt have problems, but before the war they were doing just fine compared to now, and I wouldnt have had a problem living in Iran before the current war.

The problem with the News is they Only show you all the bad parts of Iran, theres never going to be a program on the news showing All the good parts of Iran, like the people, or the culture.

I could take a video camera and go around the USA and take all kinds of video of dirty slums, failing infrastructure, people in rags living in the streets, I could make it look Worse than Iran right here in the USA. Theres places like that in every country.

Propaganda has always been a huge part of war, and it still is despite the fact that everyone is oblivious to it because its so subtle compared to the fliers that used to be dropped out of planes.


Im not saying your wrong, central banks have their "benefits" I guess, but the way they are currently being run is a Huge problem. When it fails, which seems to be happening faster every day, I just hope it's not too late for people to step up and try to fix a failing system.


Why does getting rid of central banks have to mean giving up standards of living? Are you really that convinced that we NEED government and central banks to baby us?

We, as a human race, have the technology to feed the Entire planet, provide power for the entire planet, and free the entire planet of a debt based system. We could very well live in Abundance without debt.

For an "upper class" to exist, so must a "lower class"

Is it not fair that anyone on this earth should be able to elevate themselves from the "lower class"? But we cant, because if everyone did then the people that are Rich and Powerfull wouldnt be "elite" anymore, they would just be regular people and thats not good enough for them.

As a human race people are getting lazy and want to do less for themselves. The government will continue to exploit this and keep us in debt till we stand up as a race and put an end to Fascism in the government.

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shocking to know what they waste, but then they don't care, its our money enhow

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Okay lets see, Iran's standard of living is 72nd in the world...... pretty shabby.

But let's not just rely on cold data. The very fact that beheadings are a COMMON occurrence tells me all I need to know about visiting Iran.

Although it might be comforting to know that if I do visit that country and I make a declaration that a woman was making indiscreet "LOOKS" at me, I can get her head cut off. Think of the photo's I'd have to show the neighbors. See that headless woman? She looked at me funny. HAH!!! My honor restored...whew! (they actually believe that...think about that)

Yah, what do I know,...


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You haven't countered nothing, because the points you made are not valid, you are basing your counter on information you don't understand, regardless the accuracy of the information, because it does not state what you are saying.. (Brazko)

I think Iran got brought up when you implied that not having a central banking system in USA/Canada would lower our standards of living to that of Iran. Or you recommended I should go live in Iran if I wanted to know what it was like to not have a central banking system..

Anyways, Facts are great... but perspective is they key to perception. I still dont think not having a central banking system would make our countries anything like Iran...but maybe you could point out some more stats and facts that Im overlooking?

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Well, it is you who stated that great posit of the 21st century.... perspective is the key to perception. That's a keeper....

Let me state it another way. The central banking system has provided all those who utilize it a DISTINCT advantage over those who do not. Ergo, it is better.

Now, if you have a better idea, let's hear it. Believe me, if you came up with a system that was superior, people would listen. You would be on every economic rag's cover!! Let's hear it.

Honestly, I don't think you understand what it is you are railing against. And unless you live completely debt free and pay cash for all of your personal effects...it's a bit hypocritical to bite the hand which has fed, clothed and sheltered you.


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You haven't countered nothing, because the points you made are not valid, you are basing your counter on information you don't understand, regardless the accuracy of the information, because it does not state what you are saying.. (Brazko)

Find where I said a central banking system is Bad. Please. What I did say is that the way its run is a huge problem. They print money, loan that money, and charge interest on that money. So right off the press, after its loaned out the interest being charged isnt even in circulation, there isnt enough money to pay the debt.

I didnt say it was bad, I said it has problems, and I said that if we didnt have it we would Not be a 3rd world country right now.

Im not claiming to have a better system, I just think there's massive problems with the way its being run. The simplest thing to do would to be either stop prining money in debt, or back money with precious metals. Guess who the last guy to try something like this was? JFK...and he got assassinated.



Perspective is the key to perception. Think what you want, its true.

If there was a remote village that never had contact with the outside world, then one day someone shows up with all this technology, they could claim to be from the future, they could claim to be aliens. They could say whatever they want to the remote village and the villagers would never know the difference because they havent seen the bigger picture. (ie, the modern world)

Ever think back to when you were 12 years old, You probably thought the world was a much different place.

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Ahhh so it is a surprise to you that the world lives on debt?

Of course when I was 12 I thought the world was a different place, just as the world was a different place when I was 6 and so on. I grew up and the realities unfold....now it is what you do with that changing PERSPECTIVE that counts. I entered the adult world and ADAPTED to the REAL rules of man. Quite successfully I might add. That is the best one can do unless something better comes along, no?

I'll be one of the very first people to endorse a better system. Just let me at it Vrooom!!


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You haven't countered nothing, because the points you made are not valid, you are basing your counter on information you don't understand, regardless the accuracy of the information, because it does not state what you are saying.. (Brazko)

Surprised? No. I think you make some rather large assumptions.

I think JFK had the right idea, backing our currency with Precious metals so when/if the economy crashes the paper you have in your wallet isnt worthless.

Money used to be exchangeable for Gold, not anymore, now its just "Legal Tender"

When JFK tried to set up the Greenback System he got assassinated. I think that was Great idea, its too bad it never got fully implemented.


Like I said in my previous posts, the central banking system has Problems. Its as simple as backing currency with precious metals like they used to. Its nothing new, its a really old idea that works fucking great, but the banksters dont make as much profit so it won't happen.

Please, since you seem to have so much faith in our current system, what is wrong with backing currency with precious metals?

As far as I can see, the Only difference is that the big time bankers make a bit less profit every year. Not that I give a fuck if some rich fuck can't buy an extra Mercedes or a new house that year.

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