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Old 03-15-2008, 01:53 PM
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Default Starting a autostrain (lowberry)grow now, first grow, need some help/tips
ok first of all i didnt start germing yet

I received my order today lowberry seeds from Cannabis Seeds, Lowberry, high THC Cannabis Seeds

i plan on germing 7 of them and using this method
germinating auto seeds pictures
right now before i start to germ them, how warm does the water need to be?
its pretty cold here like 65f in my room and thats prob not good enough, so my question is
can i put them in a bowl of water next to a light bulb for heat? or does it have to be dark for soaking?

what about the cracking part? I dont fully understand that, it seems kind of dangerous, like am I supposed to crack the seed open after soaking it(according to those instructions) is this safe?

this is going to be an outdoor grow however i will start th first 2 weeks or so under CFLS (2 x40w, 2 x 26w, 4 x 24w) for 7 seedlings, i will be using bottoms of 2liter cola bottles( 5"-6") as their first pots then transferring pots as i transfer them outside.

I got some cheap generic german potting soil,(I live in JORDAN btw) bcause it was all i could get, it says it is pre fertilized, and says the ph is 5.5-5.6

I dont have a ph meter or anything yet, will this be a problem? should i try to up the ph?

I got some 10-10-10 liquid fertilizer, which also contains some vitamins...
will I need this and when should i use this? on the potting soil bag it says to re-fertilize after 6-8 weeks.

I will be starting them off in a cardboard box with the cfls for the first 2 wks or so, well the box is
20 inches tall
21 inches long
and 12 inches wide

Im going to put the lights horizontally from the sides, the box is 20 inches tall, how many inches high should I put the lights?

this is where i will start them off(7 seedlings), the box is spray painted white on the inside,
Is there anything wrong with this, not enough space? flame hazard? remember its only for seedlings first 2 weeks


Please help me with all of these questions so i can get my grow started asap, THANK YOU


I have 7 6-7" real pots to transfer to when i move them outside
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can i get the first question answered real quick so i can start germing, thanks
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ok I need to know if it has to be dark while soaking them? as i want to put a light bulb next to them to keep them warm
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READ THE GROW FAQ'S at the top, they would tell you the answers to most of your questions right away.... but to germinate just put them inside a damp paper towel, fold it over on top of the seeds, and put it in a plastic bag. then put it somewhere dark (two paper plates...) and place it on something warm if you can, like a computer tower or an internet router.
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ok i have a problem ALL OF MY SEEDS R FLOATING WONT GO DOWN, is this bad
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Ok here goes...

The water you use to pre-soak the beans should be room temperature, soak them until they sink, or for around 10hrs( I ALSO USE THE SCALPEL METHOD AND SCUFF THE SEED GENTLY ALONG THE SEAM, WHICH HELPS THEM ABSORB WATER AND MAKES THE SEED SHELL EASIER TO POP OPEN)
Just because a seed doesnt sink, doesnt mean its screwed - many seeds have a wax like coating on them that helps them stop drying out, and protects them from bacterial infection..Scuffing the seeds, helps the water penetrate the coating, allowing them to absorb water easier.
If a seed doesnt sink after 10 or so hrs, you have 2 choices, plant it and wait til it pops, or give a a gentle scuff,whilst holding it in tweezers, then re-soak for a couple of hours then into paper towels etc til they pop...

DO NOT MANUALLY pop seeds, there really is no need....You just stand the risk of smooshing the seeds, damaging the embryo or firing the lil fucker somewhere in you house...and trust me , they can be pretty tricky to find once theyre on the floor, and its a pity to lose those valuable beans..

Once you have soaked, either put the seeds into soil 10mm deep, or use the paper towel method to germinate them...
Use sterile, PH'd water, NO SMOKING while you handle the seeds, Nicotine kills seeds.
you should try to maintain a temp of around 21-23*c while they are germinating,
You can put them near a light bulb, just cover the baggie or plate or whatever you have them in with some aluminum foil or paper to block the light and make sure its not too hot.... on top of a computer/tv etc will do fine, or in an airing cupboard.

That compost ph is gonna cause problems, it needs to be nearer 6.7ish..
Also depending on how high the Nutes in it are, it may be too HOT, for seedlings..
I think i would try flushing the soil for a few days before you put the sprouts into it.
But yes, you want to try to raise the PH...there are a bunch of tips on here on how to do it...Just use the Search button.

Dont use fertiliser until the cotyledon leaves (small round leaves have dried up and fallen off) ..When you start nutes, use very small doses, maybe 1/6th recommended dosage, and slowly build it up...Some strains like nutes other hate them...Alot of Auto strains, do not like too many nutes, so go steady, you dont want to stunt a plant that already has a very short lifespan..
Most autos do not need grow type nutes, as they virtually skip the VEg stage, the soil has enough nutes for the first 3wks, by which time they are generally starting to flower, so you need FLOWERING/BLOOM BOOSTER nutes, also they like molasses alot.
1tsp per litre water - every other watering from 3/4 week....altho outside, molasses can create pest problems, as they love that stuff too.



I would personally grow them out a lil longer than 2 wks under cfls before i put them outside, i wont plant outside until i have a well established seedling with several nodes.
Which will take a lil longer than 2 wks under CFLs.
Make sure that the cfls dont touch the box, and you should be fine, cfls are not really a fire hazard if you use them SENSIBLY..
Also incase you werent aware CFLs need to be 1-2" inches away from the canopy of each plant to make the most of them.
hope thats a help.
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Ok here goes...

The water you use to pre-soak the beans should be room temperature, soak them for until they sink, or for around 10hrs( I ALSO USE THE SCALPEL METHOD AND SCUFF THE SEED GENTLY ALONG THE SEAM, WHICH HELPS THEM ABSORB WATER AND MAKES THE SEED SHELL EASIER TO POP OPEN)
Just because a seed doesnt sink, doesnt mean its screwed - many seeds have a wax like coating on them that helps them stop drying out, and protects them from bacterial inection..Scuffing the seeds, helps the water penetrate the coating, allowing them to absorb water easier.
If a seed doesnt sink after 10 or so hrs, you have 2 choices, plant it and wait til it pops, or give a a gentle scuff,whilst holding it in tweezers, then re-soak for a couple of hours until the seed pops.

DO NOT MANUALLY pop seeds, there really is no need....You just stand the risk of smooshing the seeds, damaging the embryo or firing the lil fucker somewhere in you house...and trust me , they can be pretty tricky to find once theyre on the floor.

Once you have soaked, either put the seeds into soil 10mm deep, or use the paper towel method to germinate them...
Use sterile, PH'd water, NO SMOKING while you handle the seeds, Nicotine kills seeds.
you should try to maintain a temp of around 21-23*c while they are germinating,
You can put them near a light bulb, just cover the baggie or plate or whatever you have them in with some aluminum foil or paper to block the light.

That compost ph is gonna cause problems, it needs to be nearer 6.7ish..
Also depending on how high the Nutes in it are, it may be too HOT, for seedlings..
I think i would try flushing the soil for a few days before you put the sprouts into it.
But yes, you want to try to raise the PH...here are a bunch of tips on here on how to do it...Just use the Search button.

Dont use fertiliser until the cotyledon leaves (small round leaves have dried up and fallen off) ..When you start nutes, use very small doses, maybe 1/6th recommended dosage, and slowly build it up...Some strains like nutes other hate them...Alot of Auto strains, do not like too many nutes.
Most do not need grow type nutes, as they virtually skip the VEg stage, the soil has enough nutes for the first 3wks, by which time they are generally starting to flower, so you need FLOWERING nutes, also they like molasses alot.
1tsp per litre water - every other watering from 3/4 week....altho outside, molasses can create pest problems, as they love that stuff too.



I would personally grow them out a lil longer than 2 wks under cfls before i put them outside, i wont plant outside until i have a well established seedling with several nodes.
Which will take a lil longer than 2 wks under CFLs.
Make sure that the cfls dont touch the box, and you should be fine, cfls are not really a fire hazard if you use them sensibly..
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Ok here goes...

The water you use to pre-soak the beans should be room temperature, soak them until they sink, or for around 10hrs( I ALSO USE THE SCALPEL METHOD AND SCUFF THE SEED GENTLY ALONG THE SEAM, WHICH HELPS THEM ABSORB WATER AND MAKES THE SEED SHELL EASIER TO POP OPEN)
Just because a seed doesnt sink, doesnt mean its screwed - many seeds have a wax like coating on them that helps them stop drying out, and protects them from bacterial infection..Scuffing the seeds, helps the water penetrate the coating, allowing them to absorb water easier.
If a seed doesnt sink after 10 or so hrs, you have 2 choices, plant it and wait til it pops, or give a a gentle scuff,whilst holding it in tweezers, then re-soak for a couple of hours then into paper towels etc til they pop...

DO NOT MANUALLY pop seeds, there really is no need....You just stand the risk of smooshing the seeds, damaging the embryo or firing the lil fucker somewhere in you house...and trust me , they can be pretty tricky to find once theyre on the floor, and its a pity to lose those valuable beans..

Once you have soaked, either put the seeds into soil 10mm deep, or use the paper towel method to germinate them...
Use sterile, PH'd water, NO SMOKING while you handle the seeds, Nicotine kills seeds.
you should try to maintain a temp of around 21-23*c while they are germinating,
You can put them near a light bulb, just cover the baggie or plate or whatever you have them in with some aluminum foil or paper to block the light and make sure its not too hot.... on top of a computer/tv etc will do fine, or in an airing cupboard.

That compost ph is gonna cause problems, it needs to be nearer 6.7ish..
Also depending on how high the Nutes in it are, it may be too HOT, for seedlings..
I think i would try flushing the soil for a few days before you put the sprouts into it.
But yes, you want to try to raise the PH...there are a bunch of tips on here on how to do it...Just use the Search button.

Dont use fertiliser until the cotyledon leaves (small round leaves have dried up and fallen off) ..When you start nutes, use very small doses, maybe 1/6th recommended dosage, and slowly build it up...Some strains like nutes other hate them...Alot of Auto strains, do not like too many nutes, so go steady, you dont want to stunt a plant that already has a very short lifespan..
Most autos do not need grow type nutes, as they virtually skip the VEg stage, the soil has enough nutes for the first 3wks, by which time they are generally starting to flower, so you need FLOWERING/BLOOM BOOSTER nutes, also they like molasses alot.
1tsp per litre water - every other watering from 3/4 week....altho outside, molasses can create pest problems, as they love that stuff too.



I would personally grow them out a lil longer than 2 wks under cfls before i put them outside, i wont plant outside until i have a well established seedling with several nodes.
Which will take a lil longer than 2 wks under CFLs.
Make sure that the cfls dont touch the box, and you should be fine, cfls are not really a fire hazard if you use them SENSIBLY..
Also incase you werent aware CFLs need to be 1-2" inches away from the canopy of each plant to make the most of them.
hope thats a help.
thanks for writing that up! it really helped. well I wish i could do longer than 2 weeks but that will depend on how big they get as I posted the size of the box im starting off in, and im gonna be squeezing 7 plants in there, if they dont get too big after 2weeks ill go for 3
 

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