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    Default Scrog V's lst who does what!!!!

    First let me say I have never scrogged. I do however lst, What are the benifits for scrogging? It seems like it's a lot of work trying to fill in a screen but I'm not sure of the process 100%.
    With lst I get multiple bud sites of the same relative height.
    So what method do you prefer?

    Please if you don't lst or scrog don't post here. Not trying to be a bitch but I don't care if your friend, friends, uncle's buddy knows a guy who does it. I want to have a good healthy discussion with people who are in the know from personal experience.
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    It's really not all that hard u just weave ur plants threw what ever ur using to screen with u get the same results as u do if u lst so it's up to u how you want to do it

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    Personally I think SCROG is better to suited to sativa dominant strains because of the initial stretch they get in flower which for me helps to finish filling the screen and gets me to flower faster. This chops about a week or so off of my veg time doing it that way. Also I have found my yield to be much improved scrogging my sativa strain. Otherwise for me it takes longer with other strains and starts the question of whether the extra veg was worth it. As far as technique goes, scrogging is only slightly more difficult than just doing LST because the main thing is timing your flip to flower in order to have a completely full screen but not too full. This for me has been mostly strain/time dependent, I hope this helps a little and good luck.
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    When you guys talk which is better, when you scrog do you
    Trim under the screen and compare to lst? Or you guys just put the screen up an let them grow into it?

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    scrog is good for fast high yeilds because you are growing alot of small plants with their own root systems, the screen is just for even growth. SCROG you are growing as fast as possible and basically unchecked vertical growth. It's great but you are risking more having many rooted plants.
    LST you are still causing some stress by changing the flow of hormones etc but the idea is to get an even canopy as in SOG or SCROG. You will take longer but the advantage is you can have less rooted plants.
    Personally I prefer to LST because I like big plants and I am in no rush but if you want a big fast yeild SCROG or SOG is the way
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    Quote Originally Posted by gaztron3030 View Post
    scrog is good for fast high yeilds because you are growing alot of small plants with their own root systems, the screen is just for even growth. SCROG you are growing as fast as possible and basically unchecked vertical growth. It's great but you are risking more having many rooted plants.
    LST you are still causing some stress by changing the flow of hormones etc but the idea is to get an even canopy as in SOG or SCROG. You will take longer but the advantage is you can have less rooted plants.
    Personally I prefer to LST because I like big plants and I am in no rush but if you want a big fast yeild SCROG or SOG is the way
    Actually being a medical grower I am limited on how many plants I can have so less plants that are bigger is just what I'm after. Now correct me if I'm wrong but scrogging is more then 1 plant under a screen right! If that's the case LSTing 1 plant in a tote seems like the way to go for me.I don't care about vegging time as it's only flowqwring plants I have a limit on.
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    I have a Hieght Constraint of 4 ft. I have my plants in LST, getting big bud sites now, 5 weeks in veg. I plan to scrog to keep my Canopy within my constraint; However LST is good to me.
    Question asked. How much taller do stricktly LST plants grow than say a screen placed at 2 ft?
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    i haven't gotten to it yet, but i like SCROG. it's best for multi-strain grows and it makes the most efficient use of light along with that "every bud's a top cola" auxins thing making popcorn non-existent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gaztron3030 View Post
    scrog is good for fast high yeilds because you are growing alot of small plants with their own root systems, the screen is just for even growth. SCROG you are growing as fast as possible and basically unchecked vertical growth. It's great but you are risking more having many rooted plants.
    LST you are still causing some stress by changing the flow of hormones etc but the idea is to get an even canopy as in SOG or SCROG. You will take longer but the advantage is you can have less rooted plants.
    Personally I prefer to LST because I like big plants and I am in no rush but if you want a big fast yeild SCROG or SOG is the way
    Incorrect. SCROG isn't a lot of small plants. It's 1 or 2 large plants. SCROG stands for screen of green. You have a screen over one plant and you weave it until the plant fills up the 25-75% of the screen THEN you flip to 12/12. You typically want to top a scrogged plant. It's basically getting 30+ main colas instead of 10 or 15 like you would with LST. Here's a picture of MY scrog grow. Also, a lot of SCROG growers veg their plants for 2+ months. It doesn't exactly speed up the process the end, you just end up with a higher yield.



    Quote Originally Posted by hazey grapes View Post
    i haven't gotten to it yet, but i like SCROG. it's best for multi-strain grows and it makes the most efficient use of light along with that "every bud's a top cola" auxins thing making popcorn non-existent.
    Incorrect SOG is best for multi strain grows. SOG stands for sea of green. You have a LOT of plants in 1 gallon pots growing rather small, this allows you to have various strains all growing together. You will yield less per plant but having so many makes up for it and you still come out with a decent yield.

    Quote Originally Posted by TMAF View Post
    I have a Hieght Constraint of 4 ft. I have my plants in LST, getting big bud sites now, 5 weeks in veg. I plan to scrog to keep my Canopy within my constraint; However LST is good to me.
    Question asked. How much taller do stricktly LST plants grow than say a screen placed at 2 ft?
    You probably waited too long. SCROG usually goes down around 3-4 weeks of veg. After that it's a bit strange. You might be able to but the longer you wait the more difficult it will be. Also, the plant will stretch quite a bit in flower so be wary of your height limit. LST and SCROG are similar in a lot of ways, I LST my plant under the scrog screen as well a lot of scroggers do this to help the plant get to the edges of the screen with minimal issues.


    Don't get me wrong you can grow lots of plants under SCROG, but in MY personal opinion to do it right you need lots of space. I like to think each plant should have it's own screen to be a proper scrog.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr2shim View Post
    Incorrect. SCROG isn't a lot of small plants. It's 1 or 2 large plants. SCROG stands for screen of green. You have a screen over one plant and you weave it until the plant fills up the entire screen. You typically want to top a scrogged plant. It's basically getting 30+ main colas instead of 10 or 15 like you would with LST. Here's a picture of MY scrog grow.

    But that would be training your plant, you are still simply holding back some branches so the others catch up and topping them. I have seen many SCROG grows which are many clones flowered as soon as they root. if you are using big plants, whether you tie down branches or use a screen you are doing the same thing.
    I mean its just terminology any way, you are just topping and training plants but someone wants to give it a name.

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