Best type of cannabis?

dp sux

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Nevil didnt breed haze, it was given to him in seed form made by the HAze bros in 1969. why would rudy be a part of haze= tropical sativas thai/colombian and mexican.

you make no sense. yawn

your also saying no worthy strain finishes in under 10 weeks. Wow, just wow. you need to calm down
ummm contrary to internet seed bank stories MOST HAZE are just pur sativa fro equatoial parts of world.. colombia, asia,, africa.(some are cobos of all 3),
AND ITS BEEN AROUND ALOT LONGER THEN 1969 (Haze bro,s) ??? gulable thats all I got to say!!!!
And let me know bout you bangin 8 week flower strain(Im sure im gonna laugh)

THEY are landrace actualy like hindu kushes go read!!!!!

In 70,s and 80,s colombo gold,jamac lambbread, thai weed are what we would primarily call HAZE today.Good ones are
realy 3 way croses of those lanrace............
 

kingcapo123

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neville is more of a great selector than a breeder imho, he sourced seeds from alot of breeders and selected for power !

he seemed to have a gift for selecting great plants , and him seen a ex heroin addict he always seemed to go for power power power !!!

some breeders select for other qualitys ! nev was always about strength !
 

kingcapo123

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They have major potential for destroying gene pools.

and between that and banks trying to make only fems now it MOST CERTAINLY DOES favor the breeders( next thing will be GMO seeds that cant be reproduced
or cloned but will have 35% THC and inorder to stay competive we will be slaves to buying them) ALREADY BEING DONE WITH VEGATABLE SEEDS)....

People I know cant give away bud these days w/ under 20% THC (not kidden)..marijuana IS a bussiness and most breeders are bussinesmen (NOT THE CRUSADERS that most knukleheads think they are...they mostly care about the bottom line and work hard and spend alot of money to convince small growers otherwise............. You people gota stop bein so gulable..............................




30%

fem seeds have a place !! as do autos !! and yes the seeds banks are bissness's and as every bissness there belongin to there customers !!

what customers want they will supply !! if people want fems they will provide ! if they want autos they will provide !!

anyone can make fem seeds ! so this theory i hear alot about seed breeders not wanting people to breed there strains is crap anyone can buy coildial silver reverse a female and have a crop of fems !!

its puplic demand pushin the fem and auto craze !!

people in the know will buy from mr nice ! chrimera! dj short !

starters and amatures will grow cheap fems from green house and others !!
 

kingcapo123

Well-Known Member
naa i woundnt say that ! even hobby breeders need genetic sources to make there own cross's !

and people who only buy clones are restricting them selfs !! with a big seed selection or makein your own cross's you can find fresh new things, even better than the wacky named clones goin around america !!
 

Rj41

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Knowing enough of the right people, you don't buy any. You trade.

There's always free samples from different places too.


Example: A person is given or trades for 5 Pineapple/Chocolate/Cherry/AppleButter/Kushy/Haze seeds. :lol:
4 turn out to be female, 1 male.
The not-so-smart person kills the male. Those in-the-know take the male and 1 female and breed them. Now you too have seeds and pollen to trade.
 

Rj41

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You're in the right place to meet new people. Figuring out who's for real and who's full of shit is difficult though.
 

Orestesol

Member
i guess none of you understood the question..

BTW ruderalis is actually the third type of cannabis plant. Indica, Sativa, Ruderalis. It's actually even shorter than indica plants.
Before anybody was ever hitting 10 perc bongs an sh*t, there was only ONE type of cannabis and that was the Sativa from India. They cross-bred it with the Hashplant to make "Indica".
Nowadays there's so much crossbreeding involved it's almost literally impossible to find a TRUE Indica, Sativa, or Ruderalis. That's how we get these beautiful (but also mutated) cannabis plants.
 

Gastanker

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i guess none of you understood the question..

BTW ruderalis is actually the third type of cannabis plant. Indica, Sativa, Ruderalis. It's actually even shorter than indica plants.
Before anybody was ever hitting 10 perc bongs an sh*t, there was only ONE type of cannabis and that was the Sativa from India. They cross-bred it with the Hashplant to make "Indica".
Nowadays there's so much crossbreeding involved it's almost literally impossible to find a TRUE Indica, Sativa, or Ruderalis. That's how we get these beautiful (but also mutated) cannabis plants.
...Really now...

Ruderalis, Indica, and Sativa were all around before anyone was playing around with their genetics - no person created Indica. Ruderalis is native to North America and has been here before anyone thought to smoke marijuana, Sativas are naturally found on several continents generally in the tropics and Indicas are also naturally found on several continents generally favoring the less tropical more mountainous areas.

Pure subspecies are easy to find globally but are often not seen in the current US marketplace - they definitely exist and in high numbers in most other parts of the world. If you go to India and buy some hash it's not some crazy hybrid.
 

dp sux

New Member
...Really now...

Ruderalis, Indica, and Sativa were all around before anyone was playing around with their genetics - no person created Indica. Ruderalis is native to North America and has been here before anyone thought to smoke marijuana, Sativas are naturally found on several continents generally in the tropics and Indicas are also naturally found on several continents generally favoring the less tropical more mountainous areas.

Pure subspecies are easy to find globally but are often not seen in the current US marketplace - they definitely exist and in high numbers in most other parts of the world. If you go to India and buy some hash it's not some crazy hybrid.
(sativa) native every where besides far middle east (indnesia is where indica/sativa has naturaly met 1000 of yrs ago)
(Indica) native to india and far middle east
(Ruderalis) native eastern europe,siberia (russia ,hungaria ect..not usa)

Name the solid west coast genes that have any ruderalis(I bet there aint none) Why is cali bud best in world??
Cause they been secretly propperly selecting for mainly quality only for last 40 yrs..MOST OF EM are not dumb fucks either..

And seems to just cause Neville was 1st to relize it can speed up flower time dnt mean anything
it also looks like that he abandond that project untill recent consumer demand (why do you think we werent hearing more bout autos 30 yrs ago) ???
Cause the market for seeds was made up primarily of serious growers (not window sill ones)!!!!!!!

Whats native to usa before white man I would say mex sativa would be our orig landrace(most states anyway)
But now since hemp growin white man came Id say still sativa just that its been selected for its fiberouse stems (not THC)!!!

Again Ruderalis is not necessery to even speed up or comercialize sativa(indica has more then nuff traits for that) even with the shitty cbd,s(at least it a drug strain) whats next some breeder gonna use real hemp in there breedin lines also!!! where does it end. We are negativley impacting this plant over the last 5 years or so IMHO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Proof that indica also sucks= the fact that where its been growing for thousands of years people native to it smoked HASHISH
not bud(why?) because when you keaf indica your seperating to degree not completley THC from CBD.
And to me it seems even back then most didnt like the shiity effect of sleepy CBD.

Now in the tropics we dnt see the need for the natives to have made hash to catch a buzz have we???

Rasta men view it like your smokin crack and such.

Because satva verry high THC verrry low CBD!!

RUDERALIS practicaly zero of either( it just flowers with veg light 18hrs)
you can force flower any strain @ 3 weeks end get same size plant cost less juice and def be more potent)
(in exact same time maybe a week longer tops)
IMHO if growing em indoors your just not thinkin straight..
I guess if your content with low grade bud and want 2 havests outside .
But even then unless you just cant get bud whole 1st half summer
you would stiil get twice the better bud w/ half the plants growin one crop from may-oct.
How can anyone see it otherwise?????????????????

yet another jack ass scenario for em is the person who wants to grow in ther window like a house plant

Yeahhhhhhhhhh lets make a market for seeds for them people,,,,DONT BELIEVE THE HYPE!!!!

Arjan even has afganie growers in afganastan growing greenhouse seeds..
And Im sure cartel ops in mexico are getin all kinds of global genetics now.
Soooo given the fact that forien growers pollinate crops alot
whats eventualy going to happen to all the native landrace.

UHHHHHHHHH huhhhhhhhh thats why its gettin alittle out of hand now for the worst.
Ruderalis pollen is prolly floaten in air in africa thanks to those two nimrods(Arjan and Franco)..........

Fuckin up that malouwi gold they were lookin for,,,ther dumb fucks
 

Orestesol

Member
(sativa) native every where besides far middle east (indnesia is where indica/sativa has naturaly met 1000 of yrs ago)
(Indica) native to india and far middle east
(Ruderalis) native eastern europe,siberia (russia ,hungaria ect..not usa)....................................
i appreciate your response & have taken it into high consideration. now as most of this information is passed on from word-of-mouth, IT DOES NOT MEAN IT'S TRUE
i don't believe anyone unless they're a "certified Cannabis Historian" lol & neither should you, so any arguement on the matter is just pointless


just remember everyone, nobody likes a know-it-all not even those type of people.
Don't compare it, share it!
 

dp sux

New Member
Yes alot is word of mouth (but Ive just given a 1000% factual history lesson weather you choose to believe or not).

If you took time to be the historian on subject that I believe I am you can verifie every word I wrote.

Obviously some is my opinion based on yrs of observation though...........
 

Gastanker

Well-Known Member
i appreciate your response & have taken it into high consideration. now as most of this information is passed on from word-of-mouth, IT DOES NOT MEAN IT'S TRUE
i don't believe anyone unless they're a "certified Cannabis Historian" lol & neither should you, so any arguement on the matter is just pointless


just remember everyone, nobody likes a know-it-all not even those type of people.
Don't compare it, share it!
Stains are hearsay but sub species are in the fossil records... Really hard to argue them.

Yes alot is word of mouth (but Ive just given a 1000% factual history lesson weather you choose to believe or not).

If you took time to be the historian on subject that I believe I am you can verifie every word I wrote.

Obviously some is my opinion based on yrs of observation though...........
Yup what you say is true except for the part about hybridized seeds spreading to 3rd world countries. I personally have only been to the hash fields of India but I'm guessing its similar in most remote places; they grow what grows best - they've been perfecting ideal strains to grow with zero ferts, with minimal irrigation, minimal technology, in one particular altitude, humidity... They could care less is someone from Amsterdam gave them a handful of "superior" seeds that barely grow in their conditions. Strain names mean nothing to these people - just personal results based on personal growing conditions.

"These seeds produce a lb per plant indoors with CO2!"
"Do they grow in clay at 5k' with no nutes?"
"Well...Not really..."

Same reason most pure landrace seeds blow indoors.
 

dp sux

New Member
Stains are hearsay but sub species are in the fossil records... Really hard to argue them.



Yup what you say is true except for the part about hybridized seeds spreading to 3rd world countries. I personally have only been to the hash fields of India but I'm guessing its similar in most remote places; they grow what grows best - they've been perfecting ideal strains to grow with zero ferts, with minimal irrigation, minimal technology, in varied altitudes, humidity... They could care less is someone from Amsterdam gave them a handful of "superior" seeds that barely grow in their conditions. Strain names mean nothing to these people - just personal results based on personal growing conditions.

"These seeds produce a lb per plant indoors with CO2!"
"Do they grow in clay at 5k' with no nutes?"
"Well...Not really..."

Same reason most pure landrace seeds blow indoors.
The info about arjan having forien growers growing his strains is on you tube and was on one of those docs on tv he was on cnbc I think
Check it out for yourself(but the damage beeing done IS only my opnion.........)

And they were telling arjan his fem church seeds were makin males (pretty funny if you aint seen it) Go look if your bored...
 

Gastanker

Well-Known Member
The info about arjan having forien growers growing his strains is on you tube and was on one of those docs on tv he was on cnbc I think
Check it out for yourself(but the damage beeing done IS only my opnion.........)

And they were telling arjan his fem church seeds were makin males (pretty funny if you aint seen it) Go look if your bored...
I've seen the one where he gave like three guys in a village some of his seeds. Is there a followup after they've grown them? Not surprised his fems are throwing nuts - think the farmers will start buying these seeds after the free ones performed poorly an they could use their own free seed stock instead? ;)
 

dp sux

New Member
no they were growing fields of his seeds, I look in a min try get you a link( arjans says in it see this is all church)
 
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