Snake Oil, Horticultural Myths, Horticultural Urban Legends, and Persuaders

Originally Posted by Uncle Ben

Written by one of the best, Jim Downer, Ph.D from the University of Davis, California. Read it an weep.

http://ceventura.ucdavis.edu/newslet...opics39882.pdf

**thnx for the read UB.. my insomnia thnx you too... lol

--i like what they said about CTs.. kept it real, the research is inconclusive since there so many ("variables") to account for.. but this 'shit' works for me.. and i am
diligently documenting what i can (using the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_method) ..and following Dr. Inghams / and her colleagues work as well..

--cheers

Originally Posted by cannawizard

**thnx for the read UB.. my insomnia thnx you too... lol

--i like what they said about CTs.. kept it real, the research is inconclusive since there so many ("variables") to account for.. but this 'shit' works for me.. and i am
diligently documenting what i can (using the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_method) ..and following Dr. Inghams / and her colleagues work as well..

--cheers

Excuse my ignorance, but what's a CT?

He about covers it all in the context that this issue should be covered.....the nuances, the spin, the "what ifs". Interesting take on mycorrhizal fungi too. Don't get me wrong, I've spent a lot of money trying different products and found most if not all are useless. At least I can draw my own conclusions now.

Uncle Ben

Originally Posted by Uncle Ben

Excuse my ignorance, but what's a CT?

He about covers it all in the context that this issue should be covered.....the nuances, the spin, the "what ifs". Interesting take on mycorrhizal fungi too. Don't get me wrong, I've spent a lot of money trying different products and found most if not all are useless. At least I can draw my own conclusions now.

Uncle Ben

**sorry for my frequent use of acronyms :P hehe, CT = compost tea

--cheers

Great find UB, thank you.
I especially liked what it said about adding rocks for better drainage hehe. The things it said about mycorrhiza, pruning, compost teas and b-1 vitamin was all very interesting. About b-1:
“It is now certain, however, that additions of vitamin B1 to intact growing plants have no significant or useful place in horticultural or agricultural practice”

Tea, got it.

Originally Posted by Beansly

Great find UB, thank you.
I especially liked what it said about adding rocks for better drainage hehe. The things it said about mycorrhiza, pruning, compost teas and b-1 vitamin was all very interesting. About b-1:
“It is now certain, however, that additions of vitamin B1 to intact growing plants have no significant or useful place in horticultural or agricultural practice”

I did a thread here called "Superthrive or Superjive". Funny, though, I still use it but there have been quite a few Aggie experts that are into forest replanting that tell folks to save their money.

Ever try two seed trays, one innoculated at sowing with a tsp of mycorhizal fungi and one without? You'll see the different when you re-pick them to their cell trays.
His article is about transplanting in native soil. He says it MAY be a waste of resources because they MAY already be present in your soil.

He says CT research is inconclusive, not snake oil. Besides, Compost tea costs nothing.

And you use superthrive? Lol? Aren't you full of contradictions.

Originally Posted by hoagtech

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WOW!!!!

Who's the crotchety old hating bastard here? UB posts a very informative link and you go bug fuck. Did you not take your meds today or what?

Wet

Oh my friggen god We no longer can trust those in the oil industry or the DOE and now we can't trust the horti-hydro industry? What has our world come to?