ive been doing this game long enough. quit trying to correct me in my journal. these are seedlings not plants 12" tall.....

he up and moved off one day. stuck us with a $240 elec bill for the house. luckily itll be empty now for this grow because this shit is gonna be a lot of work....
im thinking about putting the light on a 12/12 timer so we can sex earlier.....i dont need many males, just enough for more seed.

Chill out man, I was only offering my advice, don't take it if you don't want it.

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no hostilities intended my friend and i apologize if i came off that way. I just find that some of the things in the grow faq are unnecessary for those who arent new to growing.
We wont be following it down to a "T" so to say.....
at least you tried to explain why instead of just saying "one plant per pot" like that guy above did.
but there is evidence that brothers and sisters of the same family strain may not have symptoms of overcrowding and im looking into it a little with this grow(although we wont be experimenting with it through the whole grow.
updates coming this afternoon.

Following the GrowFAQ to a "T" would certainly not grow plants to their full potential. The FAQ needs a lot of work. I was only speaking from personal experience with plants of the same general genetics. Good luck to you and I'll be following along to see your results.

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welcome aboard, i think ere gonna have room for quite a few in this one.

i took these pictures yesterday and got high with a friend instead of posting them like i should.
i took them out from under the fluros(that they are under in these pictures) and put them under a 400watt hps on a 12/12 timer with 2 other clones of the "groovy viet" today. the lamp is hung about 2 ft from them.











viet f1 a week and a half old.

It fell over today and only one leaf @ the very top node remains......FUCK!
well it went under the hps today too.

aint been around much lately but ive still been mulling the boards for a bit each evening. not much interesting these days it seems. more of the same thing over and over......
so this is our attempt to change that a little bit.

yesterday we decided to transplant the little ones, and because of limited pots we decided for 3 plants to a 2 liter container. We may leave these in there until they get pre flowers..... If growth goes well we will use soil bags and transplant them into those instead.
We took half the seedlings back under a fluro to veg until they get pre flowers and kept half of them under the hps to finish when they get mature. So there is 36 under the hps and 24 under the fluros with another mom.
After we find the males well be exporting them outside to find a dominant male we would like to select for breeding purposes. I will then have to Break my rule and make a cutting to bring inside and root, veg and flower for the pollen(which will be much faster than waiting on it to do so outside). Hopefully we can do all this with no pest. (tweeks eye.....).

the clones are 6 days into flower as of today.
and bushy as hell. Even the one that i topped instead of fimming (going for more of a cola versus growing for mass weight).


im going to take pictures here in a little while. i have to get stoned and get to where i wanna move first.

veg area including, a few rooting clones and the seedlings under 2 t12 bulbs.


heres the mother plant in the veg box in the top right hand corner.


now for the flowering area.
the topped clone under the hps clone
the fimmed clone under the hps

4 containers of 3 seedlings to the left of the main seedling box


main seedling box


4 containers of 3 seedlings to the right of the main seedling box.


a pic of the fimmed clone taken out from under the hps and put under fluros for pics.


pic of topped clone.


thats really all thats interesting right now. and thats not interesting........yet.

i was here earlier you just didn't know it

lookin good; got them on 12/12?