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Water Leaves - Remove or Leave
Recognizing that the large water leaves can prevent nearly all light from reaching the interior of the plant and that the water leaves are of minimal value -- what would be the result of removing all water leaves early on -- a good thing, a bad thing?
You're better off just trying to train the branches and leaves, you can use string to tie them down if need be. Careful not to break them though.
Last edited by Shadeslay; 05-21-2011 at 06:18 PM.
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honestly i do remove them but i dont have a certain time when i do it depends on the strain if i feel that the leaves are slowing is growth then i will remove them because i have had a plant be slow as hell then when i removed the water leaves it took off it amazed me. i remove almost all water leaves now.
what are exactly are water leaves
Better known as "Sun Leaves", they are the large fans that produce MOST of the plant's energy.
Originally Posted by rollin in grass
If you want to improve yield, you're better off learning to remove the tiny shoots that form under the canopy, and save the large leaves. This forces the energy into the "terminal buds" at the end of each stem.
This makes the big buds bigger without forcing the plant to add leaf area to replace the trimmed leaves.
There are MANY growers that disagree with me, so I'd suggest you do some reading in a grow manual. (Jorge Cervantes is my favorite.)
You'll find that nearly all the authors are against removing sun leaves.
Thanks - sounds like sage advice - I appreciate it.
Originally Posted by veggiegardener
...good advice veggiegardener, not that you needed reassurance.
...I lollipop my garden, removing approx. the lower 1/3 of each plant (during wk#s 2-3 of bloom)....very good advice.
Lollypopping is a sound method when plants are touching each other, shading out that bottom 1/3. Especially in indoor grows with stationary lighting.
Originally Posted by trichome fiend
Two thirds of my grow is in two greenhouses. The other third is in a cage of chainlink and remesh.
Neither situation promotes lollypopping. In the greenhouses the lower branches will grow toward the side walls. They are often slender branches that grow along the fabric. I've found them over eight feet long with many uniform, tightly spaced buds along their length. They get a lot of light through the sidewalls.
I'm old. I ramble. Sorry...
water leaves are different from sun/fan leaves , water leaves are the first set of leaves to appear they hold water for the plant in its early days and sun/fan leaves do the same they hold water and nutes for the plant but they appear at each node but they also gather sunlight for the plant so its not too great to remove a healthy fan leave. water leaves on the other hand i remove pretty early i feel they hold the plant back.
removing these water leaves slows plant growth.
plain and simple that is the truth.
even though the light is not penetrating into the middle or lower parts of the plant, simply topping it or tying it down will bring those smaller nodes to the top.
your plant will be considerably stunted and slowed the more of these large leaves that you remove compared to a plant that has none of the leaves removed.
just try it yourself with two plants of the same strain the answer is obvious.