Canna Nutrients - Page 3

LowEnder · #21 06-25-2009, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by LowEnder

A FOAF just started using Canna Aqua A/B, Rhizotonic, and Cannazym about a week ago in a drip system. He changed from using General Hydroponics 3-part and Floralicious Grow. What he has said about the pH is that it is not a stable as what he was seeing with the GH. It keeps rising a bit, +.5-1pH, daily and is needing adjustment. With the GH, pH adjustment was not needed with weekly res change or was being fixed by the daily top off

I assume this could easily be fixed by adjusting the pH of the daily top off to 4.5-5pH, or maybe even lower.

Update on my FOAF's use of Canna:

After a couple weeks of the plants acting as though they were in a state of shock and very slow growth. They have come to life again and growing rapidly. This may or may not of had to do with the change over to the Canna nutrients but it seemed to occur at the same time.

The amount of growth that has come from the change over to these nutrients is tremendous. Not to say that the growth before using GH wasn't good, but it is at about double the rate that they were at before, and these are 3-4month old vegatative state plants that should be mature enough to not be hitting any growth spurts. At the rate they have started growing at, my FOAF hopes that the 6month veg he is planning on isn't too much for the room (LOL).

The Rhizotonic is doing wonders to the roots! They have reached past the 12" deep container they have been happy in so far and are starting to drink the nutrients directly from the res.

He has also said that the issues with the ph have stopped and that it seems to auto correct itself to 5.8-6.2

The only issue currently has to do with slight nutrient deficences. He assumes that the more he works with these nutrients and gets to know what ppm/EC the pants like, they should correct themselves.

I guess that's all for now, but I will keep you updated.

felix · #22 06-27-2009, 05:28 AM

also using canna aqua line in DWC. good stable ph but it also helps to ph-correct the top off water and also use RO'd water. i like to fluctuate the ph from the low end to the high end of the acceptable spectrum. change res every 2 weeks. in between changes, at 1 week, top off with half strength nutes. all other top offs are with ph'd water unless EC is low, basically follow canna's online grow guide. foliar with boost for peace of mind in boosting as much as possible, mixed with penetrator. foliar with weak rhizotonic after trimming or pruning to reduce stressors.

BEAUTIFUL happy plants, big tomatoes!

jberry · #23 07-23-2009, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by hugetom80s

Just because someone's been doing it longer doesn't mean they do it better.

Who's been making cars longer, Ford or Honda? Who makes better cars?

Doesn't matter. Because how long you've been doing something only matters if it's something you can brag about in a commercial. How well you do something is all that's important unless your business hinges upon long-term stability.

If it's important to your growing today whether the company you bought the nutes from is likely to be around in 30 years then yes, how long they've been in the business is important.

People like to say Advanced Nutrients spends loads of money on advertising but that's not based on anything I've seen. They hardly advertise at all. Weeds - that's what you'll point to first. You'll guess (key word here is "guess") that AN spends a lot of money to get their product on Weeds but you'll just ignore all the articles we've read saying that Big Mike is a consultant on the show.

Consultants don't work for free. Probably doesn't cost them a cent to get their stuff on the show.

Maybe you'll say that the flashy labels cost a lot. Doesn't cost any more to print than any other color label, and it's a one-time cost to design.

I've heard all the crap and that's all it is. To date I've never seen anyone actually back up the claim that AN spends all this money on advertising with something real. It makes sense to me that the money is actually going where they say it is. Research, all the charity work they do, stuff like that.

But hey, everyone that buys AN is gullible anyway so why listen to what I think?

canna's products are of better quality and much more user friendly... why would you mix 13 products when you could mix 5 ?

AN are even thinking the same thing... they recently combined two of their products,( carboload and sweetleaf ) and now they are calling it Bud Candy!
Maybe if they really did use the highest quality ingredients and started combining them appropriately people wouldnt be soo bummed on their brand.

IMO AN is for the new grower who wants to "feel" like he's doin something special.

Canna and House and Garden Van De Zwaan are what give the best results imo.

You say AN isnt ALL about advertising!!! Well look at the label on thier new product "bud candy" !! It doesnt say a damn thing about anything! I want REAL INFORMATION not a story to sell the product! AN always has the lamest ads, I cant believe people buy this shit...

here's whats written on the label of bud candy:

IMAGINE BACK IN YOUR PAST WHEN YOU WERE A KID AT THE COUNTY FAIR EATING COTTON CANDY. IT WAS PURE DELIGHT THAT MELTED IN YOUR MOUTH LEAVING YOUR FINGERS STICKY AND GOOEY! THAT SWEET DELICIOUS TASTE AND THOSE SMELLS IT DROVE YOU CRAZY! NOT ONLY DID IT SMELL AND TASTE DELICIOUS YOU GOT AN IMMEDIATE BOLT OF ENERGY FROM ALL THAT SUGAR THAT RUSHED THROUGH YOUR VEINS! NOW ITS TIME TO BRING ALL OF THAT SAME GOOD AND SWEET STUFF HOME TO YOUR PLANTS!

haha wtf is that?
u would never see that bullshit from canna or anyone else... really!!

Gippy666 · #24 07-23-2009, 02:51 PM

I agree i started off using hesi another dutch product but switched to canna after a dutch guy recommended them to me,
i uuse the whole regime and nothing else,and mixing 5 is easy as jberry said,their cannaboost flowering accelerator is a great additive for
flowering and it improves the taste,they are nearing their 30th year of nute production for weed,so it's not as if they don't have the experience,plus go to
growguide.info and enter in a few details and it will give you a printable feeding schedule from clone to harvest,which makes life much easier and
gives you one less thing to worry about,i grow in soil and canna are the only nutrient's i will use now,.................CANNA ROCKS!!!!

dbo24242 · #25 07-23-2009, 03:00 PM

local hydro stores got the full line I picked up some pk 13/14 but didn't fall for the boost I use molasses instead. considering the switch to the aqua line once I finish this grow.

jberry · #26 07-23-2009, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by dbo24242

local hydro stores got the full line I picked up some pk 13/14 but didn't fall for the boost I use molasses instead. considering the switch to the aqua line once I finish this grow.

yea ive spent a lot of time and money on the boost and although it IS a really great product I cant justify the cost any longer. I havent noticed a huge difference since i stopped using it... really its the pk boosters that do the magic. try using it (at 4ml per gal. or so) from first signs of flowering until two weeks before harvest for waaay better results. The label on the canna pk 13/14 says to use it once for a week, 3 weeks b4 harvest, but using it the whole time will insure you hit the plant at the right time...

the above feeding method was approved by canna... when i asked them if it was okay they said it was the way to go...
I heard that they have started to change the instructions on the newer labels being printed to suggest using it longer as well.

dbo24242 · #27 07-24-2009, 12:50 AM

actually thats what I did starting about 2 weeks of flowering I started the pk at 2-5ml per gal or so and it boosted em up for a few weeks I will use a little more of it soon.

LowEnder · #28 07-24-2009, 05:02 AM

What do you guys think about the Rhizotonic? My friend only bought the small bottle of the stuff and used it for a couple weeks and saw wonderful results on the roots. Since it is said to use something like 15ml/gal for a couple weeks then drop down to 5ml/gal, I could be off on these numbers. He is wondering if he should invest money in getting any more for this grow or just wait til the next crop. His root balls are so freakin' big at the moment that he is not sure if continueing with it is needed or will help anymore than it already has. I know your probably going to say the more roots the better but, he has vegged way past what he should, since Febuary, and these plants could use a bit of slowing down. He kinda freaking out about what they are going to do once he does start to flower since the are at about 40" and thats with tyeing everything down.

jberry · #29 07-24-2009, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by LowEnder

What do you guys think about the Rhizotonic? My friend only bought the small bottle of the stuff and used it for a couple weeks and saw wonderful results on the roots. Since it is said to use something like 15ml/gal for a couple weeks then drop down to 5ml/gal, I could be off on these numbers. He is wondering if he should invest money in getting any more for this grow or just wait til the next crop. His root balls are so freakin' big at the moment that he is not sure if continueing with it is needed or will help anymore than it already has. I know your probably going to say the more roots the better but, he has vegged way past what he should, since Febuary, and these plants could use a bit of slowing down. He kinda freaking out about what they are going to do once he does start to flower since the are at about 40" and thats with tyeing everything down.

good stuff... i use it until a week or two before harvest at 2ml per gal.
get if you can, if you cant then im sure it will be ok. but its nice to have healthy roots and stress free plants even when theyre flowering.
+ there might be sum trace minerals,vitamins ect.. that may (or may not be?) helpful during bloom.
idk canna says use 2ml per gal through out the bloom so thats what i would do, or at least 1ml per gal.
if its a money thing than just use it every other day or at 1/2 strength to make it go twice as far.

TRY FOLIAR FEEDING WITH RHIZO ! ITS WORKS FAST AND AWESOME. (4VEG)

Redwood1 · #30 10-23-2009, 03:02 AM

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Originally Posted by jberry

yea ive spent a lot of time and money on the boost and although it IS a really great product I cant justify the cost any longer. I havent noticed a huge difference since i stopped using it... really its the pk boosters that do the magic. try using it (at 4ml per gal. or so) from first signs of flowering until two weeks before harvest for waaay better results. The label on the canna pk 13/14 says to use it once for a week, 3 weeks b4 harvest, but using it the whole time will insure you hit the plant at the right time...

the above feeding method was approved by canna... when i asked them if it was okay they said it was the way to go...
I heard that they have started to change the instructions on the newer labels being printed to suggest using it longer as well.

I have to say that I have been wondering if the Boost is worth the cost as well. I just used it for the first time and my plants look great but im not sure if its the boost or not. They say that it cuts down on your flowering time. How do you feel about that?

Im about to go with the Canna Agua series with the Rizo the PK 13/14, and the Boost. Instead of the canazym Im going with Hydrozym its the shit. I going to run Sweet as well. With Gravity and Snow storm. Then the last two weeks add in FloraNecter pinaple rush and banna manna. Last week when flushing will give it the boost, sweet, floranectar, and banna manna.

Im thinking that I will have some great results.

Do you flush every week with Canna? The guys at my hydro shop are telling me that I will not have to flush using there products.

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