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Old 12-15-2006, 09:12 PM
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Default what is a polyploid plant? Treating seeds with Colchicine
so someone posted a link to a website that had some pretty interesting, yet confusing information on it... below is the article... my question is, what is this process actually doing to the plant seed? What are the advantages to a polyploid plant? Treating seeds with Colchicin
"You can employ a growth changer called Colchicine. This is a bit hard to get and expensive. (Should be ordered through a lab of some sort and costs about $35 a gram.) **** To use the Colchicine, you should prepare your presoaking solution of distilled water with about 0.10 per cent Colchicine. This will cause many of the seeds to die and not germinate, but the ones that do come up will be polyploid plants. This is the accepted difference between such strains as "gold" and normal grass, and yours will DEFINITELY be super weed. **** The problem here is that Colchicine is a poison in larger quantities and bay be poisonous in the first generation of plants. Bill Frake, author of CONNOISSEUR'S HANDBOOK OF marijuana runs a very complete Colchicine treatment down and warns against smoking the first generation plants (all succeeding generations will also be polyploid) because of this poisonous quality. **** However, the Medical Index shows Colchicine being given in very small quantities to people for treatment if various ailments. Although these quantities are small, they would appear to be larger than any you could receive form smoking a seed-treated plant. **** It would be a good idea to buy a copy of CONNOISSEUR'S, if you are planning to attempt this, and read Mr. Drake's complete instructions."There you have it, someone please explain all this
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I am curious myself.. sounds fishy?
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Basically just ensures that the plant is stronger as far as i can tell.
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ive read quite a bit on plant growth, and plant hormones for growth(gibberellic acid and promalin mostly). from what ive read you use Colchicine on seedlings to make plants mutate and the single biggest + from colchicine treatment is in something like 30% of the plants that made it to sprout had mutated into haveing more branches at each node.(sounds like a good mom plant) but ive read nothing about colchicine improveing THC%'s but, im no expert just some1 with waaay to much free time. lol
i dont know of anything that will make a plant "gold" or have uberTHC. ive read about things to help a plant convert CBD into THC.(UVB lighting) if you run across anything else on colchicine let me know. im all about the learnin. anywhoo hope this helps
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and I assume the clones from one of these sprouted super seeds would have the same attributes?

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yup knome it changes the chromosome number of the plant its used on and that inturn changes the clones. there are a few ways to use colchicine (on seeds or on the bud sites themselves).ill show ya the links ive got on it, surely it will explain it better than i could.
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i was just talking to my dad about this, and i couldn't remember the name of the chemical and he just said it and new exactly what i was talking about. He said his brother used to saok his seeds in it, or something. I'll ask and bring more info

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sweet tim, by seeds i hope u mean pot seeds. there is very little info out there about uses on marijuana. ive only found 1 study done on colchicine used on marijuana, and that was just about as 1/2 assed as a study can be. but now i cant even find that site. ill keep looking for it, but the info from some1 that has used it or saw it used first hand would be awesome.
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so someone posted a link to a website that had some pretty interesting, yet confusing information on it... below is the article... my question is, what is this process actually doing to the plant seed? What are the advantages to a polyploid plant? Treating seeds with Colchicin
"You can employ a growth changer called Colchicine. This is a bit hard to get and expensive. (Should be ordered through a lab of some sort and costs about $35 a gram.) **** To use the Colchicine, you should prepare your presoaking solution of distilled water with about 0.10 per cent Colchicine. This will cause many of the seeds to die and not germinate, but the ones that do come up will be polyploid plants. This is the accepted difference between such strains as "gold" and normal grass, and yours will DEFINITELY be super weed. **** The problem here is that Colchicine is a poison in larger quantities and bay be poisonous in the first generation of plants. Bill Frake, author of CONNOISSEUR'S HANDBOOK OF marijuana runs a very complete Colchicine treatment down and warns against smoking the first generation plants (all succeeding generations will also be polyploid) because of this poisonous quality. **** However, the Medical Index shows Colchicine being given in very small quantities to people for treatment if various ailments. Although these quantities are small, they would appear to be larger than any you could receive form smoking a seed-treated plant. **** It would be a good idea to buy a copy of CONNOISSEUR'S, if you are planning to attempt this, and read Mr. Drake's complete instructions."There you have it, someone please explain all this
many years ago ,i got some from a lab from a friend,and tried it on quite a lot of seeds,many did not make it ,but those that did seemed to be much larger than the others we had planted.
this was years ago,and from aussie bush seeds,they grew much larger and seemed to be behind the others in flowering but were very impressive to look at,as far as the end product which i would have smoked as they looked fucking wonderful,i can not comment as c.a.l.m or the forest dept you may call it, burnt off where i was growing as it was not far from a railway line,it never occured to me they would burn off as it was not far from someone who was keeping bees,but i guess he wasnt allowed to be there either as his hives went the same way ,i returned to water and it was black, for all my plants,and the guys bees up in smoke.
never tried it since but i believe it comes in tablets used for gout?also old info ,as i am no spring chicken .
so if you can get some give it a go,but i would not use expensive seeds as heaps did not germinate,but then the info was not available that is today,so you may have better luck ,i would not plant near a fucking railway line though,i had never seen a fucking train use it,and it looked unused,i planted about three hundred metres away,and the place was burnt to a crisp.
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colch just makes sure u get a female (bombass weed)dont smoke the first generation of bud if u use colchcine, yes it can kill u.
 

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