I live in CA and I don't have a medical card. I don't really want one, either. What I would like is to get a caregiver's license. Does anyone know where I would go to get one of these, and also, would I be forced to get a medical card for myself prior to growing for other patients?

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Thats A Good Question. Let Me Know If You Find Out.

yea I have checked online and no one has been an help here. I guess its off to finding te know-it-all in the neighborhood. I'll let ya know when I get word on the matter.

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There is no such thing, my friend, without a prescription, and furthermore, due to a referendum in Los Angeles and many other CA counties, no new caregiver clubs can be opened until next fall, or later if deemed necessary to create the regulatory laws surrounding cannabis clubs in California. Northern Cali is a bit different in some cases, but it is all SB 420.
What you are asking is if you can open up a store, basically. THe Caregiver clause in SB420 is tricky, and unless you can legally possess it under a doctor's advice, you can't go near it.

Sorry. I tried doing that before I got my script. I'm totally legal now, and honestly, really neurotic about knowing the laws as they change. I could help if you needed any further questions about the bill. I WILL NOT tell you how to convince a doc you are sick if you are not. I really believe in Medical marijuana because it really helps a lot of sick people. Google SB420, read it a few times, be honest, and spend the money on a doctor's visit. It's not as big a deal as it sounds, and under HIPAA and the Medical Privacy Act of 1974, there cannot exist a legitimate database that the government can read whenever they want involving any drug you take under the State medical licensing Committee . Even under the Patriot Act, they cannot touch your medical records without a really, really, really good reason.

Don't forget, you're in California. You are welcome here, and the State protects it own. Oregon is about to legalize, and the entire fight is MUCH closer to being won on our side than the average person thinks. The only thing we are missing is cooler heads in the Federal government.

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"Only the unsophisticated continue to believe that cannabis leads to violence and crime. Indeed, instead of inciting criminal behavior, cannabis may tend to suppress it."-Substance Abuse, a Comprehensive Textbook,
Edited by Joyce Lowinson and Published by Lippincott Williams and Wilkins

A recent shop here in sacramento was raided by the DEA and got a hold of the clubs computer with all the patients visit info and everything ...i never went to that club but ive been to others im just worried if another raid goes on theyll have my name on the computer.do they monitor what u buy? or what

I have respect for your willingness to even consider helping me. Free advice is something I'm not even used to. Let me be clear in saying that I would not even be interested in lying to get a script. If I was, I CERTAINLY wouldn't need to ask such questions online. It seems as if some of the most brilliant gardeners out there just lack common sense, let alone business sense. I am consistently surprised by not only the amount of people who are willing to take advantage of the prescription system, but also just how blatantly foolish and indiscreet some of these people are with their words and actions. Bottom line, I TOTALLY qualify for a prescription, but I don't want one because it could backfire. I understand what you are saying about privacy. The 4th amendment is pretty solid, but the patriot act is pretty intrusive. Police rarely follow the constitution when they KNOW whats going on, in terms of operation. In terms of future background searches, they will find ANY I mean ANY reason to refuse you a handgun in CA. Thats one of my concerns. Maby Ron Paul can change that.

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Government exists to protect us from each other. Where government has gone beyond its limits is in deciding to protect us from ourselves. -Ronald Reagan

Wow, you just asked a really, really big question. Marijuana is a legal, and illegal substance, depending on who's holding the handcuffs. The U.S. Constitution makes it so that States have the right to decree their own specific laws, as long as they are not against any existing Constitutional law. There is only one law in the Constitution against the consumption of any particular substance, and it was repealed by a later amendment.

However, for, um, various reasons, in 1970, Congress created the Controlled Substance Act, making Marijuana, along with Heroin, Cocaine and Meth Amphetamine, a schedule 1 drug--(A) The drug or other substance has high potential for abuse.(B) The drug or other substance has no currently accepted medical use in treatment in the United States.(C) There is a lack of accepted safety for use of the drug or other substance under medical supervision. This remains the Federal governments firm stance on Marijuana--there was a federal medical marijuana initiative, and there are still, (either 7 or 12, forgive me, I'm high) people who get weed from from Uncle Sam, but that is another story.--

However, the battle is being waged, and California passed both a popular vote(initative 215) and a Senate vote (SB420)to legalize Medical Marijuana here, in our borders. There are really some serious legal battles in our favor against the Department of Health and Human Services, the FDA and State Senates all over the country. It is a difficult battle, but IMHO, the argument against full legalization of Pot have consisted of a "drugs are bad, m'kay" mantra that will eventually be beaten down by proven medical research and sociocultural studies. Weed is good, or at least not as bad as stuff like booze, Compazine, or Prozac.
The History of the banning marijuana in the US is a very interesting story, full of neat conspiracy nut angles, if you wanna lean that way, but a story fascinating enough to rival the Tommy gun days of Prohibition. But I digress.

To answer your question, there are a lot of possible reasons that club in Sacramento got busted, but honestly, been dealing with personal shit these days and haven't been following, so I don't know. Why a lot of club I have read about get busted is that the "Caregiver" status that these cannabis clubs operate under have a great deal of regulations to maintain, one of the biggest is keeping a Non-Profit status. They can't make money, and figuring out how to pay the rent and keeping the bottom line at zero is not something the average pot smoker can master unless they really dot every i and crossed every T. Beside, how they get their pot is about as fair as the competency test Gypsies had to take under Third Reich psychiatrists.

The Feds want this to fail, and many clubs get busted, ironically, on the same day the laws being broken have been written.
As for the reality of your name being in the computer, these are medical records, under State law, and are inadmissible in court. If you are someone who smokes about a few grams a week, privately in your home, what does the DEA want with you? The entire goal of the DEA is to justify their funding by dramatic busts on the news that the current administration can use to show that they are "tough on them thar' drugs."
They've made a few mistakes in the past.
Basically, if you don't feel comfortable being a patient and you can grow your own, go for it and screw the $150 the charge to sign your permission form. I'm just an old guy who has found that pot works for what ails me. I do it under the law because I believe that that law should be there for sick people who need it. I don't begrudge anyone for doing it illegally--I think it is a dumb law. I'm just older and found true love so I don't wanna get busted.

Sorry for the ramble. Believe it or not, I'm incredibly stoned, and a bit verbose at times. Welcome to roll it up. Peace.

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"Only the unsophisticated continue to believe that cannabis leads to violence and crime. Indeed, instead of inciting criminal behavior, cannabis may tend to suppress it."-Substance Abuse, a Comprehensive Textbook,
Edited by Joyce Lowinson and Published by Lippincott Williams and Wilkins

ok koo i dont care if the feds know i smoke or if i have my card i was worried cuz i bought alot of clones last sspring and i just thought the DEA just wanted to bust the growers because growing is a federal offense .and i dont bud from clubs because i buy an ounce every week and i thought it wouldve drawn attention but now i know i dont have nothing to worry about thanks for the info!

Thanks for all the info.
I my self have a card. My question was more to the amount of plants that you can have growing at one time-12- I have herd that if you have a different type of card you are able to grow more. I don't know if this is true. But they have to be able to get all that med. from some where.

Yea in most counties it is 6 immature and 6 mature plants, plus a couple ounces on hand is fine. A grower's card can legally allow you up to 99 plants in certain...ahem...notoriously pro-toke counties.

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Government exists to protect us from each other. Where government has gone beyond its limits is in deciding to protect us from ourselves. -Ronald Reagan