Would a solar powered HPS light interest you??

**Bulldog73** · 02-16-2010, 01:16 PM

So the reason I ask is that I am part of a development group of alternative technologies. What we really are working on are power solutions for both commercial and residential applications. So we have a product that we are going to be introducing soon (within 12 months) that we call our EPS (Enhanced Power Supply and/or Electric Pit Stop).

So this product is actually a lithium Ion (next generation version which incorporates nanotechnology into the battery (solid state battery more or less).. So our system is meant to tie into your home electric system. Difference is, in the USA, we actually have electric tariffs. So you can actually buy your electricity for a 25% - 40% reduction in electricity costs. This isn't a maybe it is fact.. Problem is, there is no-way for the electric companies to know when you are buying (unless you put monitors on every outlet) and even if they could tell when you were buying electricity, you have no where to store it. So you can only buy what you are using... So if you want to get the savings, I guess you would have to become nocturnal and run monitors on all your outlets.. (no storage capacity). So our product fixes that. You buy power when it is cheap at night and you can use it anytime as it is stored in the EPS.

So that is the first thing our product does. Now this is the part that deals with the thread title.

So the second thing our product does is it can also work with energy generation. Meaning that instead of just buying it cheaper and storing it for use, you can actually connect our product to either Solar or Wind Turbine for electric generation. So you can create electricity via solar or wind and store it in the EPS.. Third thing it does is charge electric vechiles but that is years off as there are no standards yet in the industry..

So back to the energy generation part. It got me thinking about applying some engineering resources to my little idea here. Solar powered HPS lighting.. Now I don't think I can generate enough power with current solar cells to run HPS lights stand alone, but I bet I can store enough to run the light or supplement it to almost no cost. So the EPS can actually store 100KW, which is 2-3 times what a normal house uses in a full day or about the amount of energy necessary to power an electric vechile for about 300 miles.

So if I can come up with a design that works and is cost effective at lowering HPS energy costs, would you as a grower be interested in it?? The current design for the house is going to retail for under $3000 and will be supplemented by Gov. So if I can come up with a more compact version that specifically is targeted to growers (commercial and home growers that produce the good stuff), and I can deliver it at a price point of under $1000 or $1500, would it interest anyone??

Sounds expensive but it is a one time cost.. At least until you need to replace some battery cells (maybe 5 years). I kind of look at it as the same thing as investing in LED, only this way you know what the results will be as you are still using your regular old HPS lighting....

**SmokeMore** · 02-16-2010, 08:29 PM

Hey Bulldog,

Here are my thoughts.

I'm using High Out Flourescents due to the lower wattage needed, and therefore, lower electricity cost.

I'm new at this, and understand I may suffer some in yield due to the type of lights I'm using, as opposed to the HPS or MH lights, but I kind of have no choice, my whole setup with lights, fans, and everything, is only using about 325 watts or so. I may need more lights, and if so, may be looking at 400 watts. I know I could use a 400 watt HPS bulb, which may be better light, but my newbie, computer background mentality just sort of makes me think if I use several High Output Flourescents close to the plants, that would give better coverage per watt used as opposed to one single light at the top. Plus I have no heat issue whatsoever, which I would with an HPS light.

I want to get the most bang for the watt/buck, and if I can grow with less wattage, I must do it, not necessarily for the money, I can afford the extra electric, but where I live I pay my electric at the park office, and if my electric tripled, even if they didn't "question" it, they'd wonder, and if they ever smelled anything, they'd know what I was doing.

My point in saying all that is I need to keep the wattage down. The product you're proposing would be useful, and I'd be interested in it, but I'd be more interested in a device that could offset my total electricity usage, whatever my setup, so maybe I could have the proper lights, or more of the ones I'm using, and take less of a hit on the electric.

If I could put a solar panel on my shed, run some wires, somehow easily plug that in to my home electrical system, thereby using the "self produced" electricity before using the regular electricity, that would be great, thereby allowing me to have my setup and offset the extra electrical usage.

And a concern would be, any device, the one you mentioned or perhaps something along my idea, could be considered suspicious. The reason I say that is a normal person could use the device with no problem, but if you have the device and that extra electricity is used to grow marijuana, you'd have a device, a solar panel or turbine, generating electricity, that wouldn't seemingly have an effect. Like in my case, if the park management saw a solar panel on my shed, it would indicate I'm generating extra electricity, my bill wouldn't change, so what's he doing? That all may sound confusing, but I'm sure you get my point.

I guess in other words if I didn't live in a place where anything I did out side would be noticed, and I could use some device to offset the extra electricity usage, I'd buy it.

Sorry for the long message.

**Bulldog73** · 02-17-2010, 08:33 AM

I know what you are saying. My intentions are for legal use only so the consideration of people being tipped off to what I am doing doesn't matter to me as again I am speaking about using it for a legal purpose. As to a solar panel being able to power an LED set up, that is totally plausable. I don't know about 1 panel as I don't know what the energy consumption of your LED set up is. You may not be able to support the entire light array with a single panel, but you could definetly supplement your cost with it..

**theweedguy** · 02-17-2010, 08:48 AM

I would definitely invest in a unit like that when it becomes available. My goal is to one day get my 8000w grow room 75%+ off the grid and using a device like that would surely be a start.

**Bulldog73** · 02-17-2010, 09:06 AM

Originally Posted by theweedguy

I would definitely invest in a unit like that when it becomes available. My goal is to one day get my 8000w grow room 75%+ off the grid and using a device like that would surely be a start.

I don't think that would be totally out of the question depending on what part of the world you are in (you need to have lots of sunny days to maximize solar technology.. I will talk to an engineer and see how easy this would be to build.. At least someone else would be interested besides me

**theweedguy** · 02-17-2010, 12:28 PM

Frankly i'm suprised with all the other useless bullshit out there this hasn't been created yet

**Bulldog73** · 02-17-2010, 12:41 PM

That's the great thing about the legalization of marijuana. As it becomes more mainstream, you will see tons of crap like this get developed.. There are some bad things that go along with mainstream acceptance and legalization like lots of bad weed and lots of decent weed in the clubs.... I figure there are a few good years to develop products around this market before it becomes way oversaturated with people trying to cash in on it...

**KaleoXxX** · 02-17-2010, 12:43 PM

wouldnt this idea be a little redundant? why not just grow the plants under the sun? am i missing something?

**vangrav** · 02-17-2010, 01:59 PM

just get solar panels and run your entire house off of em. govt rebates included, you can get solar panels for 200.00 each and have a 1000 sq ft. house off and running for around 1500.00

**jawbrodt** · 02-17-2010, 02:35 PM

Originally Posted by KaleoXxX

wouldnt this idea be a little redundant? why not just grow the plants under the sun? am i missing something?

Because there's only one harvest season per year, in nature. Most growers need to be able to control their photoperiods, and harvest year 'round.

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