I see so much wasted space throughout this site it almost makes me feel ill. Why are people buying 2 gallon containers then only vegging for 4 weeks? What's the point? A whole gallon of wasted space.

In soil, now this is cold hard truth, if you veg' for 4 weeks you are looking at around an oz per plant, maybe a little more, maybe a LOT less. This should be the same yield whether you use a 1 gallon or 2 gallon container. In a 1 gallon container you're fine for up to 6 weeks of veg' (maybe longer) from seed. From clones 4 weeks is about it in a 1 gallon.

If you only intend to veg' for 4 weeks buy 1 gallon containers.

Its the added food in the soil, or thats what I at first thought, but after dropping to 8" pots from 12", ive increased my plant to space ratio and will be pulling about the same if not more from the smaller pots

say 1/2 oz each plant maybe more for a total of 6oz dry every harvest
{12 plants}

From my finding bigger plants have at least a foot at the bottom of each plant not getting any light so why not just {for me} grow 1-1/2 ft plants, after all you still have to feed the 1ft of nothing

yup, precisely why I've gone to SoG cramming 24 plants in the space that I used to house 2 plants in. I'm not using 1000watt hids and am getting tired of harvesting a gallon of popcorn buds. I'm trying to dial my setup in and get as much out of the space that I have.

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I'm left wondering though, particularly about a comment made by fdd' where he surmised that there was no such thing as root bound, just how much bud we can cram out of a tiny 1/2 litre container.

True yes, we can veg' for 3-5 days and maybe accomplish anywhere between an 1/8th to a 1/2 oz per plant, depending on strain, expertise etc...

But... what if we vegetated them for longer? Gave them a 2 week veg' in those little containers instead? I've done a lot of experiments in the short amount of time I've been growing in an attempt to learn as much as I can.

I look at fdd's trees, then the tiny little pots that they sit in... and this gets me to thinking.

since you mentioned my name, i'll jump in......



maui wowie clone, put into this pot at 6" tall in april, been outside almost 6 months. it measures 5' 5" tall from the base of the plant to the tallest bud. the pot is not measured, just the plant. it is 5' across. it is flowering. i could add another 2 to 3 inches of soil if i really wanted to. i see no need.

I'm glad you have jumped in, as this has now strengthened my resolve to try this out. I'll use 1/2 litre containers and veg' them (clones) for two weeks. Ordinarily out of a 2 week veg' I expect something approaching 2oz per plant. So this is what I hope to achieve, i have the clones rooting now, should be only a couple of days before I can start.