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Old 08-30-2009, 03:42 PM
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Most growers belive that any marijuana seed is a good seed and if grown properly it will produce great plant and considerable yield. Well, it's not that simple my friends, when genetics and lack of cross pollination comes in the way. You don't know how many growers loose months of time and hundreds of dollars to grow seeds they found in a pot bag or they just got from a friend who grew them accidentally. Most of them end up with weak, strange looking marijuana plants with practically no existent yield. Why? The simple answer is those seeds usually come from self inbreeded cannabis gardens that were usually propagated in a vegetative way i.e. by cloning. This means our seed parents are brothers and sisters or even identical clones made from one mother plant. In genetic science this situation is called self pollination or one line inbreeding and when it comes to cannabis spieces it produces weaker, less diverse hybrids because genes do not get mixed up and interchanged with each generation, and that is exactly opposite situation to what happens in mother nature developed and perfected evolutionary process which serves endless life diversity and every spieces strenght.
sound gr8 but what are you saying ......
r u for bagseed or against it
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Old 08-30-2009, 04:46 PM
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Before you get your hopes too high:

Most growers belive that any marijuana seed is a good seed and if grown properly it will produce great plant and considerable yield. Well, it's not that simple my friends, when genetics and lack of cross pollination comes in the way. You don't know how many growers loose months of time and hundreds of dollars to grow seeds they found in a pot bag or they just got from a friend who grew them accidentally. Most of them end up with weak, strange looking marijuana plants with practically no existent yield. Why? The simple answer is those seeds usually come from self inbreeded cannabis gardens that were usually propagated in a vegetative way i.e. by cloning. This means our seed parents are brothers and sisters or even identical clones made from one mother plant. In genetic science this situation is called self pollination or one line inbreeding and when it comes to cannabis spieces it produces weaker, less diverse hybrids because genes do not get mixed up and interchanged with each generation, and that is exactly opposite situation to what happens in mother nature developed and perfected evolutionary process which serves endless life diversity and every spieces strenght.
Exactly, the percentage arent very high, but all it takes is 1 quality female.
A few cuttings later and a some time and you have a closet full of good plants.

I got lucky, i was expecting to have to grow 20+ plants until I found something worth cloning.
I got 2 out of 15 that seem to be worth the effort.

Those 2 were completely different than the other candidates, squat, vigorous, and bushy as hell. Now those seeds came from the same buds that the junky plants were from. I have to assume they got polinated by different males, or one parent is more of a dominant Indica strain.

I wouldn't think that huge outdoor commercial grows are just one strain. Its more of a grab bag of genetics, most of the time you get something average....but once in a while you hit the jackpot.
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Before you get your hopes too high:

Most growers belive that any marijuana seed is a good seed and if grown properly it will produce great plant and considerable yield. Well, it's not that simple my friends, when genetics and lack of cross pollination comes in the way. You don't know how many growers loose months of time and hundreds of dollars to grow seeds they found in a pot bag or they just got from a friend who grew them accidentally. Most of them end up with weak, strange looking marijuana plants with practically no existent yield. Why? The simple answer is those seeds usually come from self inbreeded cannabis gardens that were usually propagated in a vegetative way i.e. by cloning. This means our seed parents are brothers and sisters or even identical clones made from one mother plant. In genetic science this situation is called self pollination or one line inbreeding and when it comes to cannabis spieces it produces weaker, less diverse hybrids because genes do not get mixed up and interchanged with each generation, and that is exactly opposite situation to what happens in mother nature developed and perfected evolutionary process which serves endless life diversity and every spieces strenght.
I must disagree. While those words are truthfull, they are not completely accurate. My first year + as well as a friends was from bag seeds. We saved the seeds from the best bud the dealers had all year long, and in the end we both came out with good quality grows. Strong , diverse plants that yielded just fine. Like someone said before all it takes is is one keeper. The downside to this is that at times you will have phenos within the same run that are undesirable, that is where the time and work sucks. To grow something with middle of the road results due to bad genetics, but out of all of my bagseed grows, I found at least one amazing keeper female, in every 12 plant run. Those were experiments when i first started. I do recommend now starting with good known genetics. I even found a batch of feminized seeds that do not hermie in some bag weed. 7 of 7 female the fist run, and 4/4 the second. And my friends loved the smoke. and i still got 14 of those babies left
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I even found a batch of feminized seeds that do not hermie in some bag weed. 7 of 7 female the fist run, and 4/4 the second. And my friends loved the smoke. and i still got 14 of those babies left
Probably made by "safety net bananas" from the plant not being harvested early enough. These are pretty safe to use for pollination.
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well my current grow is bagseed schwag, but i feel just about any sensi crop has the chance of being some killa kill... starin names do have genetics backing them but like the guy above me said, give any plant some love, figure out what phenos you want to keep and pass on, and you may end up with a strain name of your own one day...
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Good genetics are very important.

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