Ok Well im looking for lights for a small stealth grow only abuot 3 ft high so i was thinking florescent bulbs so i was wondering would these work.... and how many bulbs woild i need for veg n flower stage's 2 for each would work ? for about 2-4 plants... and umm is there a premade soil that i could use? im not to good at mixing and complicated shit so is there anything i can use right outa the bag ? ...... and for a plant thats gonna be like 2 ft high tops in a scrog grow how big a pot would i need... could i get away with a smaller 6-8 inch pot ? how often would i need to water plants.. and how much water and is there anything else i would need like nutes or ph shit ? of should it grow fine without that stuff

EDIT : so ive herd sunshine mix #4 and Fox farm ocean forest are 2 great soils to use...
light wise im still alittle stumped ive herd people saying u need 7500+ lumens a plant .. then ive herd people who
use less then half of that..... i think i might go with 1 105-125 watt cfl for veg ( whichever spectrum that is i forget)
which is about 6200-6900 lumens.. then when the plants go into flowering i plan to add another of the flowering
spectrum so it would be about 200-250 watt 12,000-14,000 lumens for 2-4 plants in a very enclosed space
3'h x 2 x 2 about 18 square feet? if it matters

ok well ive done alittle looking into lights.... ive herd u need about 2500 lumens per plant.... so i would need to find something about 100 watts? for 2-4 plants 1 bulb at 2700 k and one at like ? 6500k ?
for flowering and veg.... i know nothing about soil... ive herd mirical grow can burn the plants cuz of to much nute's ... i herd something about fox something something but i cant remember

2500 lumens per plant is near the bare minimum a plant needs to survive. For "magazine cover" buds you need around 10,000 per plant. Somewhere around 7000-7500 per plant will give you something great to smoke. I use the straight out of the bag miracle grow indoor potting soil. Cant say its the best but it worked fine on my first grow, and now 1/2 way through my second. I usually leach the plants 1 week before transplanting them to their final pots for flowering. As far as vegging and flowering you want more of the cool white bulbs for vegging and the warm white bulbs for flowering.

7500...thats more then twice as much as ive herd for excellent growing light got alink to this info ? cuz 7500 for one plant thats 2 ft high seems alittle overboard....

Im new to this indoor growing thing, this is my setup....any advice here r some pics of my plant and what i use. any advice would be helpful

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buy Jorge Cervantes book at barnes and noble, read any and all FAQ's about lighting either here or on hightimes.com.... you'll find your own answers like i did

another idea might be to just look at some light manufacturers specs on their growlights...... a 400w HPS light puts out something like 60,000+ lumens and is recommended to illuminate a space approximately 2x3'...... 60,000 lumens divided by 6sq/ft = 10,000 per sq/ft..... and so on for larger lights.
These numbers are also related to Flowering..... much less light is needed for seedlings, mothers, and vegging...... plus alot more plants can share the light at the lower stages of growth

well i did find my own answers.... thats what fucks me up..... cuz i have about 10 compleatly diffrent answers for the same question .... the problem is i cant just go ask all those source's if there correct.. so i post my thoughts and see if someone who knows what there talking about says " one of those things is right"

EDit: hps in small spacE? = burn down the house? i thought those lights where hot + big which is the opposite of what i need

soil: Ocean Forest - I have 5 2 foot indicas in 30 days, no nutes, under:
light: 400watt hortilux blue, hidhut digital ballast, $200 + reflector

forget about lumens, forget about cfls, if you want proper growth without having to be a master horticulturist, it is all about spectrum and intensity (which you only get from 100watt+ cfl (not a 27watt=100watt bulb)). By the time you get 2 or 3 100watt cfls plus reflectors, you could have just bought a much higher intensity/efficiency mh light. With the hortilux bulb, you get proper spectrum

The results speak for themselves, 2 foot indicas from bagseed
How? ocean forest 1 gallon pots, 2 weeks under 100 watt flourex security light (home depot) + 1 daylight 27 watt @ 6" light distance. Transplanted to 5 gallon ocean forest, 2 weeks under 400 watt hortliux blue @ 1foot. 2 feet, 7-8 nodes each. Easier than I thought. One thing, I wish I didn't waste so much money on cfls up front, would have done just as good or better with the mh @ 2-3 feet light distance.

what about the engineering and cost of having the extra heat and height in your grow room for the big boy lights? CFL's will benifet from just opening the doors to your room once or twice a day.