how long in veg does it take to show sex?

I heard if you veg long enough you will eventually see the sex anyways. so how long does this take, i only have regular seeds and i need 2 mothers. so i dont really have the light/ room for 10 plants to find my 2 females so i was just gonna grow 4 out and hopefully get 2 females from it to use as mothers for clones.

i hope you get 2/4 man. as far as i know only certain strains show preflowers before i put them into flower. none of the bagseeds i grew ever showed before i made them. ive seen it happen with outdoor crops several weeks before natural flowering time. maybe if you slowly decreased daylight hours; 18/6 for 2 weeks, then 17/7 for another week, then 16/8 for two more exct. exct

Cyproz said:

I heard if you veg long enough you will eventually see the sex anyways. so how long does this take, i only have regular seeds and i need 2 mothers. so i dont really have the light/ room for 10 plants to find my 2 females so i was just gonna grow 4 out and hopefully get 2 females from it to use as mothers for clones.

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Some won't show sex - for months - unless the light changes. I was in kind of the same spot, and what I did was switch the lights. Within 1 week all had shown, and I took clones then.

If you only have one area you could do the same, weed out the males, and take your clones...

dang thats not too great of news, how do people get mothers? could i throw them into flower for 2 weeks and then once i find my 2 get throw them back under 24/7?

Cyproz said:

dang thats not too great of news, how do people get mothers? could i throw them into flower for 2 weeks and then once i find my 2 get throw them back under 24/7?

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You could put them to flower then change back but you'll probably get hermied plants from the stress. People get mothers by having feminized seeds that they know the plant is female already before flower or they take clones from the plant in veg and then flower the clones in a separate room. If the clones turn out to be females then whichever plant that the clone came from is a female.

people do that, ive heard of people taking clones of plants in flower too, but that causes some unwanted stress, no more than pruning fan leaves id imagine

Mysticlown150 said:

You could put them to flower then change back but you'll probably get hermied plants from the stress. People get mothers by having feminized seeds that they know the plant is female already before flower or they take clones from the plant in veg and then flower the clones in a separate room. If the clones turn out to be females then whichever plant that the clone came from is a female.

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is it a huge chance of herming doing this or just like a 30% chance?

Take clones from each one, then flower the mother? By the time the mothers are sexing out, your clones should have roots.

Cyproz said:

is it a huge chance of herming doing this or just like a 30% chance?

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I don't know exactly the % at which it may hermie due to stress of switching flowering cycles. After all some strains are more hard to fuck up than others. If you do that with a blueberry strain your crop is herm for sure but others strains may be more resilient. But I'd just take a cutting and put it in a box with light in the box (cabinet works fine). Put it in 12/12 and see if it grows balls. Thats how I do it since my veg is my flower room.

satch said:

Take clones from each one, then flower the mother? By the time the mothers are sexing out, your clones should have roots.

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yea ill probably try that

take clones from all of the plants you have now. Put the clones into flowering. once you see the sex of the clones you will know what sex all of your plants are.

ya do that and make the first plants your smoke, then use 2 clones for mothers, then keep cloning the clones

wg1833 said:

take clones from all of the plants you have now. Put the clones into flowering. once you see the sex of the clones you will know what sex all of your plants are.

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Except this gives you dead time waiting for all your clones to take root and start growing again, not to mention the time it takes for the plants to sex out under 12/12.

As with the stuff about hermies, it's in the individual plant's genetics as to how it will react to stress. Usually Indica heavy plants are harder to herm than Sativa doms which are famous for not liking to have any kind of sexual consistency. It also comes into play how the seed was made. If the pollen came from a female that sprouted balls, all offspring have a chance to be shims as well, and likewise will sprout balls at the first sign of stress. Seeds made from a true male, are a lot harder to herm and would be much easier to reveg without problems.

the thing is guys, i dont have any plants yet they are germing so i have a bit of time to decide whats best/quickest.

Take clippings from your desired plant then once the clone clippings are healthy put them into 12 12 and see what happens .this isnt a quick fix but a shure fire way of knowing sex

I have never come across a strain that did not reveal its sex once it became sexually mature in veg. The time can vary though. But usually by week 5 or 6. The preflowers may be small and hard to see without a magnifying glass. But they will show. The third or forth node from the top is a good place to start looking.

You can put that cutting straight into 12/12, it will sex while it is growing roots.

Stink Bug said:

I have never come across a strain that did not reveal its sex once it became sexually mature in veg. The time can vary though. But usually by week 5 or 6. The preflowers may be small and hard to see without a magnifying glass. But they will show. The third or forth node from the top is a good place to start looking.

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I've got an Indica dominant strain (still unknown/bag seed)I've been growing for over 60 days under 16/8 light that isn't showing at all! Yes, it has growths between the nodes but are not sexual parts at all but possible new branch sites. Most have grown but then stunt out as it's using all its resources for rooting and light sourcing by vegging out. My light schedule allows enough dark to accumulate enough phytoestrogens to "know" its sex but focus on growth. This is the problem with 24 hour light growth schedules, there is not time allocated for sexual production and this then coheres with how the plant was brought into the world...clone, male to female pollination or hermaphrodite to female pollination..mendels law....

Alot of info here is absolutely false and it takes more than a weed grower to define these scientific properties of plants both mono and dioecious. Man o man i could go on but the point of this reply is, even though i have a plant with unknown origins i know I can vastly influence the ultimate sexual orientation of my plant despite being in a vegetative state merely by being patient and respond to it's individual needs in a timely manner. Just be patient, don't stress your plants by taking cuttings or forcing, etc....with experience comes knowledge, not others opinions.

Well then..no harm done.