Botanicare Sweet vs. Molasses

depends, if it is blackstrap molasses then i say definately switch to the Sweet, so many people run down these companies, like the SweetLeaf by Advanced Nutes, they should maybe look into it more and try the things themselves, just beware of the repleis you become, half the people dont even have a clue about what they are talking about, and id say bout 80% really just speak out the ass

Originally Posted by dcolem01

Botanicare Sweet versus Molasses: ?

I ran into a nice guy at the grow shop yesterday who told me that if I used Botanicare Sweet instead of Molasses I'd remember him because of the amazing results.

I was thinking of going out and buying some, but first I want to know if this is everything the hype is about.

Does Botanicare Sweet work any better than a cheap jar of Molasses for all intents and purposes?

What does it do that makes the bud so desirable? Should I go out and buy a bottle to water with or should I just stick with the Molasses?

Thanks.

the difference is about $20. and you may remember the hydro guy, but he will DEFINETLY remember you.

has he tried to sell you a clearing solution?:LOL:

Originally Posted by syze

depends, if it is blackstrap molasses then i say definately switch to the Sweet, so many people run down these companies, like the SweetLeaf by Advanced Nutes, they should maybe look into it more and try the things themselves, just beware of the repleis you become, half the people dont even have a clue about what they are talking about, and id say bout 80% really just speak out the ass

blackstrap? as opposed to...? try reading the ingredients on those products. they all are basically mollasses.

go to stinkbuds grow they all use sweet can probably get some good info there

Pot accessory mantra .. make it more expensive and they will buy it.

Thanks for the answers everyone. Actually, what's funny is that this wasn't somebody trying to sell me anything. This was just some nice guy in the parking lot who had overheard me asking a clerk if they happened to have any molasses around.

Originally Posted by CrackerJax

Pot accessory mantra .. make it more expensive and they will buy it.

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fucking $80 for a gallon af advanced nutes...my generic 3-part costs $20 a gallon. $60 gets me base nutes for almost 6 months.

here....great read on molasses. credit goes to the Three Little Birds for this great article.




Sweet Organic Goodness - Magical Molasses
There are a number of different nutrient and fertilizer companies selling a variety of additives billed as carbohydrate booster products for plants. Usually retailing for tens of dollars per gallon if not tens of dollars per liter, these products usually claim to work as a carbohydrate source for plants. A variety of benefits are supposed to be unlocked by the use of these products, including the relief of plant stresses and increases in the rate of nutrient uptake. On the surface it sounds real good, and while these kinds of products almost always base their claims in enough science to sound good, reality doesn’t always live up to the hype.

The 3LB are pretty well known for our distrust of nutrient companies like Advanced Nutrients who produce large lines of products (usually with large accompanying price tags) claiming to be a series of “magic bullets” - unlocking the keys to growing success for new and experienced growers alike. One member of the three_little_birds grower’s and breeder’s collective decided to sample one of these products a while back, intending to give the product a fair trial and then report on the results to the community at Cannabis World.

Imagine, if you will, Tweetie bird flying off to the local hydroponics store, purchasing a bottle of the wonder product - “Super Plant Carb!” (not it’s real name) - and then dragging it back to the bird’s nest. With a sense of expectation our lil’ bird opens the lid, hoping to take a peek and a whiff of this new (and expensive) goodie for our wonderful plants. She is greeted with a familiar sweet smell that it takes a moment to place. Then the realization hits her. . .

Molasses! The “Super Plant Carb!” smells just like Blackstrap Molasses. At the thought that she’s just paid something like $15 for a liter of molasses, our Tweetie bird scowls. Surely she tells herself there must be more to this product than just molasses. So she dips a wing into the sweet juice ever so slightly, and brings it up to have a taste.

Much the same way a sneaky Sylvester cat is exposed by a little yellow bird saying - “I thought I saw a puddy tat . . . I did I did see a puddy tat . . . and he’s standing right there!” - our Tweetie bird had discovered the essence of this product. It was indeed nothing more than Blackstrap Molasses, a quick taste had conformed for our Tweetie bird that she had wasted her time and effort lugging home a very expensive bottle of plant food additive. Molasses is something we already use for gardening at the Bird’s Nest. In fact sweeteners like molasses have long been a part of the arsenal of common products used by organic gardeners to bring greater health to their soils and plants.

So please listen to the little yellow bird when she chirps, because our Tweetie bird knows her stuff. The fertilizer companies are like the bumbling Sylvester in many ways, but rather than picturing themselves stuffed with a little bird, they see themselves growing fat with huge profits from the wallets of unsuspecting consumers. Let us assure you it’s not the vision of yellow feathers floating in front of their stuffed mouths that led these executives in their attempt to “pounce” on the plant growing public.

And the repackaging of molasses as plant food or plant additive is not just limited to the companies selling their products in hydroponic stores. Folks shopping at places like Wal-Mart are just as likely to be taken in by this tactic. In this particular case the offending party is Schultz® Garden Safe All Purpose Liquid Plant Food 3-1-5. This is a relatively inexpensive product that seems appealing to a variety of organic gardeners. Here’s Shultz own description of their product.

“Garden Safe Liquid Plant Foods are made from plants in a patented technology that provides plants with essential nutrients for beautiful flowers and foliage and no offensive smell. Plus they improve soils by enhancing natural microbial activity. Great for all vegetables, herbs, flowers, trees, shrubs and houseplants including roses, tomatoes, fruits, and lawns. Derived from completely natural ingredients, Garden Safe All Purpose Liquid Plant Food feeds plants and invigorates soil microbial activity. Made from sugar beet roots! No offensive manure or fish odors.”

That sure sounds good, and the three_little_birds will even go as far as to say we agree 100% with all the claims made in that little blurb of ad copy. But here’s the problem, Shultz isn’t exactly telling the public that the bottle of “fertilizer” they are buying is nothing more than a waste product derived from the production of sugar. In fact, Schultz® Garden Safe 3-1-5 Liquid Plant Food is really and truly nothing more than a form molasses derived from sugar beet processing that is usually used as an animal feed sweetener. If you don’t believe a band of birds, go ahead and look for yourself at the fine print on a Garden Safe bottle where it says - “Contains 3.0% Water Soluble Nitrogen, 1.0% Available Phosphate, 5.0% Soluble Potash - derived from molasses.”

The only problem we see, is that animal feed additives shouldn’t be retailing for $7.95 a quart, and that’s the price Shultz is charging for it’s Garden Safe product. While we don’t find that quite as offensive as Advanced Nutrients selling their “CarboLoad” product for $14.00 a liter, we still know that it’s terribly overpriced for sugar processing wastes. So, just as our band of birds gave the scoop on poop in our Guano Guide, we’re now about to give folks the sweet truth about molasses.

(Also, do your own research on this, but molasses can be used for organic pest control too)