Dangerous Hot Shot No Pest Strip

hot shot no pest strips work on almost any garden pest you can think of... but are extremely dangerous to be around UNLESS you have a TON of air circulation... they may not affect everyone the same.. hell you might not have any reactions at all.. but that doesnt make them any less dangerous to breath or less lethal... no one should ever breath in chemical pesticides/miticides willingly... and its all sorts of ignorant and just flat fucking stupid to make an arguement that they are ok and safe to use.. they are only safe to use if you arent around them breathing in the fumes... and even then you dont know if they are leaving a residue on your plants/buds and what the long term affects of being exposed to them in large doses will be... its always better and smarter to try to go organic... one or two organic methods at least.. then go to chemical if it the problem is still there..

as far as gnats and other soil bound pests, GT is right, sand will work... you have to have enough on the top of the soil to help... 1/2" to 1"... its to much weight for the pests to get through, and they eventually die.. yes, it takes a couple weeks to get rid of the problem.. but if i can take care of a problem without having to possibly risk my health, even if it takes a couple weeks to achieve results its worth it..

as far as spider mites go i swear 150% by 100% pure cold pressed neem oil... such as dynagro or einstein oil... mix it up in a spray and spray your plants well, top and bottom of the leaves, and it works.. its NOT a spot treatment.. it wont kill on contact... neem oil isnt like that.. it works by coating and suffocating eggs, and as the mites injest the neem, it fucks with their hormones.. it makes it so immature mites dont reach maturity, thus keeping them from reproducing.. and it stops adult mites from being able to reproduce.. but its only effective if its injested.. it can also be root fed with waterings.. which assists in making sure the pests eat it.. plus it deters the pests because they dont like the taste... as well as providing trace elements to your plant... neem oil is very beneficial and works great.. just make sure its "100% pure cold pressed neem oil" and not something that contains neem or is made from neem oil... pytherin products also work well on mites... but i prefer neem oil.. it last a lot longer, i can make my own spray with it, and i can root feed it...

To the person that said these don't work for mites, you definitely did not use them correctly.

And, No pest strips work better if you use them correctly and MINIMIZE VENTING AND TIME IN YOUR GARDEN during the short period they are being used. It's best to give them a strong dose for a short period of time rather than a light dose for a longer period as bugs can build immunities to NPS when used in limited doses.

I'm not suggesting you keep them in your garden 24/7 for preventative. I'm saying this product is awesome if used CORRECTLY, and, is no more dangerous than the other toxic byproducts we are all exposed to on an every day basis in our regular environment of walking around a city and driving on the highway. And you can further minimize the risk of NPS by wearing a dust mask for the week or two you use them when you enter the garden.

Sand? Yeah lets choke off oxygen to our roots and filter out our additives and nutrients, great recommendation. Neem oil? lol, Might as well write them a friendly letter requesting they "please" leave!

Hot Shot No Pest Strips-the most effective and least costly pest control for the indoor marijuana farmer, period.

Not for the organic gardner thoU. not that i am..but ur not gonna convince somebody that is tryn to stay as natural as possible that the NPS are the way to go over other homemade measures and neem..and just being generally careful about ur practices to minimize a outbreak from ever occuring. Bet Yes the NPS do kill MITES. spot killer and prevenitive hands down

Originally Posted by pickleman

if they worked like the other poster said i dont think u would see as many mite problem threads that u do.

Nope, you see all the mite problem threads you do because not enough people know about no pest strips. I battled those little fookers all last summer and nobody at the 3 different grow stores I go to ever suggested or told me about no pest strips! After spending hundreds of dollars and god knows how much time waging war a buddy said, "dude, go to lowe's and get a no pest strip and call me in the morning and let me know how great they worked." Well, I used them and it killed ALL VISIBLE MITES IN 24hrs! I was sold. And then I got pissed off at all the employees at the grow stores who failed me and let me spend all that money and time waging an unwinnable war with neem, azamax and foggers. After I killed my mites I went back to the grow store and asked them why the hell they didn't recommend the simple NPS, none of them had even heard of the product! So, here I am spreading the word to save others hundreds of dollars and months of time. Take it or leave it.

I think I will stick to the "Hippy shit":

CAUTION: Contains a Cholinesterase Inhibitor. Repeated inhalation or skin
contact with Dichlorvos (DDVP) may, without symptoms, progressively increase
susceptibility to Dichlorvos (DDVP) poisoning.
May be Toxic to fish, birds, and other wildlife when exposed to large quantities
of strips.
ROUTE(S) OF ENTRY: Under normal use conditions the amount of DDVP given off by the product
described in this MSDS is not sufficient to cause ingestion, skin, eye or inhalation hazards.
However, under extreme conditions this product may be fatal if sufficient DDVP is absorbed
through the eye or skin, is ingested or is inhaled. Overexposure may produce acute
cholinesterase depression.
SIGNS OF ACUTE OVEREXPOSURE: Acute cholinesterase depression may be evidenced by
headache, nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, abdominal cramps, excessive sweating, salivation and
tearing, constricted pupils, blurred vision, tightness in chest, weakness, muscle twitching
and confusion; in extreme cases, unconsciousness, convulsions, severe respiratory
depression and death may occur.
SIGNS OF CHRONIC OVEREXPOSURE: Repeated exposures to small doses of DDVP and other
organophosphates may lower the cholinesterase to levels where the above symptoms of
acute overexposure are observed.
CARCINOGENICITY: EPA under its 1999 proposed Guidelines for Carcinogen Risk Assessment has
classified DDVP as having "suggestive evidence of carcinogenicity, but not sufficient to
assess human carcinogenic potential." IARC lists DDVP (Dichlorvos) as being possibly
carcinogenic to humans (Group 2B). CARE SHOULD BE EXERCISED IN HANDLING
DDVP AND ITS FORMULATIONS.
SKIN PROTECTION: Impervious, usually rubber or nitrile, gloves are required for prolonged or
repeated exposures to this product. Workers should wear long-sleeved shirt and long pants;
waterproof gloves; and shoes plus socks. Follow manufacturer's instructions for cleaning/
maintaining personal protection equipment (PPE). If no such instructions are available, use
detergent and hot water. Keep and wash PPE separately from other laundry. Do not reuse
contaminated clothing until it has been laundered properly. Always wash hands, face and
arms with soap and water after using pesticides before smoking, eating, drinking or going to
the toilet. Shower after work each day.

Originally Posted by angelsbandit

I think I will stick to the "Hippy shit":

CAUTION: Contains a Cholinesterase Inhibitor. Repeated inhalation or skin
contact with Dichlorvos (DDVP) may, without symptoms, progressively increase
susceptibility to Dichlorvos (DDVP) poisoning.
May be Toxic to fish, birds, and other wildlife when exposed to large quantities
of strips.
ROUTE(S) OF ENTRY: Under normal use conditions the amount of DDVP given off by the product
described in this MSDS is not sufficient to cause ingestion, skin, eye or inhalation hazards.
However, under extreme conditions this product may be fatal if sufficient DDVP is absorbed
through the eye or skin, is ingested or is inhaled. Overexposure may produce acute
cholinesterase depression.
SIGNS OF ACUTE OVEREXPOSURE: Acute cholinesterase depression may be evidenced by
headache, nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, abdominal cramps, excessive sweating, salivation and
tearing, constricted pupils, blurred vision, tightness in chest, weakness, muscle twitching
and confusion; in extreme cases, unconsciousness, convulsions, severe respiratory
depression and death may occur.
SIGNS OF CHRONIC OVEREXPOSURE: Repeated exposures to small doses of DDVP and other
organophosphates may lower the cholinesterase to levels where the above symptoms of
acute overexposure are observed.
CARCINOGENICITY: EPA under its 1999 proposed Guidelines for Carcinogen Risk Assessment has
classified DDVP as having "suggestive evidence of carcinogenicity, but not sufficient to
assess human carcinogenic potential." IARC lists DDVP (Dichlorvos) as being possibly
carcinogenic to humans (Group 2B). CARE SHOULD BE EXERCISED IN HANDLING
DDVP AND ITS FORMULATIONS.
SKIN PROTECTION: Impervious, usually rubber or nitrile, gloves are required for prolonged or
repeated exposures to this product. Workers should wear long-sleeved shirt and long pants;
waterproof gloves; and shoes plus socks. Follow manufacturer's instructions for cleaning/
maintaining personal protection equipment (PPE). If no such instructions are available, use
detergent and hot water. Keep and wash PPE separately from other laundry. Do not reuse
contaminated clothing until it has been laundered properly. Always wash hands, face and
arms with soap and water after using pesticides before smoking, eating, drinking or going to
the toilet. Shower after work each day.

Did you read that article before you posted it? It basically supports my argument that they are fairly benign!

"CARCINOGENICITY: EPA under its 1999 proposed Guidelines for Carcinogen Risk Assessment has
classified DDVP as having "suggestive evidence of carcinogenicity, but not sufficient to
assess human carcinogenic potential."

AND

"Under normal use conditions the amount of DDVP given off by the product
described in this MSDS is not sufficient to cause ingestion, skin, eye or inhalation hazards."

Yeah, that's what I have been saying this entire time. So, why would you stick with the hippie shit and post an article that you seem to think supports the idea that NPS are dangerous when in fact the article you posted suggests otherwise.

well i dont know how i could have used them wrong i simply opened and hung the strip in the middle of my 6x8 tin shed up high and watched them multiply

Originally Posted by BasementGuerrilla

You are offering him the wrong advice, I was trying to help him. Get over yourself and how many posts you have on an online web forum.

I don't count my posts... I count my reputation, it's a gauge for how GOOD my advice is. You have neither... and like I said, its not like anyone can come scream at you if you get them sick.

Originally Posted by BasementGuerrilla

Stop misleading people with your hippie paranoia. NPS are a great product and the only reason you don't hear more about them is b/c a grow store makes way more money selling you Azatrol/Azamax and all the other over priced bug annoyers. I spent almost $200 and 2 months trying all the BS organic products that did NOTHING. Then I bought a $5 NPS and it was like a miracle. And now this guy has white flies too.

Perhaps you were not using them correctly. It wouldn't surprise me.

Originally Posted by BasementGuerrilla

I'm dying to hear what you recommend he do for them. Rain dance?

I told him what would work 100% -- Sand on top of the soil, and the yellow sticky traps. Sand alone would work, but the insects are attracted to the yellow on the sticky trap, and they will go full force at them. This would resolve the problem 100% without any sickening chemicals.

and I'm the one who -repped you.