thats the question basically, do clones flop over in the first few days?

I made a few clones for the first time the other day and they flopped over in the first couple of hours, I had to go away for a few days and they dried up. I took some new clones this morning when I looked int he evening they have flopped over - Is this what happens? will they survive?

Thanks for any advice
Green

im no expert but i dont think they should be ''flopping'' over

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if they are too stressed they will go limp you need to keep them moist and also allow lots of air to the cutting still

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Abudsmokers_Journal

your using clonex gel correct?

They are kept moist and have been from the start, they have little air as they are in a heated propagator with the top just cracked open slightly to keep it nice and humid.

Yes I am using clonex gel

Some more info perhaps I should have given is:-

They are in rockwool cube that have been soaked and shook out some, I cut them on a 45 angle with a blade cleaned in surgical spirits I split the bottom of the stem and scraped around the outside of the bottom stem, dipped in some fresh clonex gel and poped them into the cubes, I then misted the top.

The only thing I did this time that didn't seem quite right to me but I followed the advice in the Jorge Cervantis book was to pour some 5.6ph water into the bottom of the tray with the rockwool cube in, from what I can see this wicked straight up into the rockwool and possibly these are now too wet.

I am visiting the propagator twice a day and misting inside the lid.

Can anybody advise where I am going wrong please also are they screwed now they have flopped or might they be ok?

Thanks all

this is probably why they are wilted. next time, just cut at an angle and remove node growth, no other cuts, scrapes, or splits are necessary

probably, go shake the excess water out. they should feel water heavy, but should not be dripping

stop misting, that's what the dome is for. it will hold all the moisture you need just from being on top of the wet rw.


kp

Thanks kp, I followed the advice in the Jorge book it said that this would give more chances of root growth, I will try without next time - I just revisited and it seems that not all have drooped some are still ok. Will the drooping ones spring back to life now if conditions are favourable?

thanks
Green

if all else fails and its still wilted you have the same problem as i do, i don't know what i fix it so i went back to powder. Supposely the gel isn't a fungicide and i guess your gel is infected.

everybody else works fine but i got problems with clonex gel always wilting on me so i went back to powder.

from my experience I can tell that this happens if clones get too much light like from sitting in direct sun light. but is could be also caused by wrong cutting techniques.

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keep the thumb green and the gun oiled, !

a few of mine did that. i can see one root on one of my others i did. its been 4 days. they take ages. im gonna try another method as well.i'll put a link up here to a thread i did. also where are you taking the cuttin from on the plant. newish growth or older. are they strong cuttings if you get wat i mean!