no shit , bet we all wish we had a pair of those !

I have been eying the bloom box and fell into this thread looking for a review.
Although it is expensive, I think with 32 cubic feet of growing room would yield say what.. like 1/2 oz per plant or more depending on strain. With 9 plants thats 4+ ounces (more likely 6+), I always like to round down and prepare for the worst and when the best happens its always a smiler. So in my neck o' the woods, 1z = $250-$400 depending again on strain. so say 5z x $325 = $1,625 of course minus that 1z you need to "test sample" so really each 'crop' would bring @ $1,300. Now said expensive machine (Bloom Box), has no construction necessary. Is light tight and (supposedly) odor free.

I have had a 1,000 watt sodium halide and ballast, both brand new in the box,
sitting in my closet, collecting dust for over 10 years. I finally sold it on craig's list. The reason I never used it: Smell. There was absolutely no way in hell, living where I do, (6 unit apartment building), old electrical wiring, neighbors very close, etc. I even had a friend who grows for some of the local cannabis clubs come by and give me his opinion on growing stealthy where I am at. He recommended not to..

So here I am, too surely to want to work for someone younger then myself, needing to make some cash to fuel my dreams, like having a house someday, etc.

So by my guesstimate.. and I may be completly off base, it seems like a 8 week cycle?! So that means every two months, so at the end of a year you get 6 cycles x $1,300 = $7,800 .

Now, it begins to look more feasible.. Initial money has been paid, remaining costs for nutrients, electricity etc.. will be minimal.

I can, at the end of the year decide that, damn this works great, consumes low power and doesn't raise the eyebrows of neighbors or apartment visitors and reduces the risk of electrical induced fires via shoddy electrical work. And then buy a second unit with the profit and start a savings account.

Someone talk me out of this with logic and reason and building one myself would be a lot of time consuming, taxicab using (I ride a motorcycle) and very obvious to the roommate (although hes been a friend for many years and smokes). I just like following the simple rule of less people that know the better!

Please wise ones reply and tell me my logic is flawed before I spend the initial cash.

~Jammin

Finally someone poses the exact same question that I have back in June and not a single reply. I need to know about these products at bcnorthernlights.com but unfortunatly this was this guys one post obviously nobody answered his questions. So hey Jammin if youre out there let me know how what your decision was, or is. I'm having a hard time finding any feedback on these products from this company. Any help would be greatly apprecaited. If you think 3500 is expensive they have packages that go up to 24,000 dollars that supposedly produce up to 30 pounds in 10 months. If stealthyness and lack of tools, and workspace do happen to be a problem then would it be a good idea to go with one of their packages?

i'd like to bump this thread.

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Anything I say is fictional or theoretical. All pics posted by me are stolen from the web or are very good fakes.

I have not gotten past the wish stage yet.

Hey hey,

We're working on a customer forum, but it's so tricky because we can't come off like we're promoting anything illegal. As the marketing guy, I'm trying to figure out the best way to have existing customers share their experiences with people who are just thinking of becoming customers. Doing more of this web stuff will hopefully help.

I can go off for hours about why our Grow Your Own systems are the best choice you can make for growing plants indoors, but it's not the same as having an honest paying customer tell you exactly how things went for them.

If you are asking specific questions about the yield from these boxes, our customers are producing anywhere from 0.5 to 1.0 lbs of dried and cured plant matter from the BloomBox and 1.0 to 2.0 lbs of dried and cured plant matter from the Producer. Although that is somewhat dependent on the type of plants one chooses to grow.

Typically the BloomBox will turn over its crops faster because you can run the first stage of vegetation on the left side while the right side is flowering.

Let me know if you have any other questions.

BCNL
BC Northern Lights

BC BLOOMBOX Grow

great journal here but I don't want to interfear too much what he's got going on also found this on youtube pretty nice example

YouTube - The Producer bcnorthernlights

I don't get online a whole lot right now but i'd like to keep this posting going with as much good info as I can about BCNL they seem like a great company that plays by the rules, by not shamelessly advertising outrageous claims, and from what I can tell and have heard have exellent customer support

. i have been looking at the producer for years ... never wanting to spend the money .... i just moved to vancouver . .. and met a guy that had one .... ive been smoking for 15 years .. and have grown for 5 years .... the producer is the best product u can get .... people who dont know how to grow can plug and play ... and no wires no putting up walls. no nuttin ... you get it and start growing ... if u live far from the city and have space ... then maybe building a room is good for u .... but in the city the producer is a must ....ive had people say" it cost too much , ill build my own .... DONT for the time and hassle... buy the box ... i gaurantee top BUD .. which we all want ... and if u have co2 u will get 1.5 to 2 p a crop

the only thing that has changed ofr me since the original post is that I now have a savings account. However I will go over the logistics again with the new 1.5--2 lb per batch. I assume thats for 1 unit (BloomBox).

Jammin' (still)

I noticed there is a "package deal" on the BC web site. One bloombox and one dryer. $1,700 of freebies to make it an 'all-u-need' package. However I did not see a pic of the clone chamber nor a mention of it in the PDF specs. Also No Price. But following a link to their US dealers, (pun intended), I deduced that one bloombox + one dryer = $3,700 US Dollars. yikes. I can guess the price of all the ph equipment and solutions and rockwool, has got to bring the price to $4,000. So with that figure in mind and not counting the 6 amps and 2 amps of electricity required for each unit to function in the ON position.

That said: here's my math:
2 months = 9 plants
9 = 1->2 Lbs
keeping the low number:
1 = 16oz
16 = 128 1/8oz
128 x 45 = 5,760
5,760 = 2 months

That more then pays for its first use, I bet even adding in the electricity! And $45 in my neck of the woods is cheap!!

So with a full years worth of freebies (the package deal), the only additional cost, as I see it, would be for electricity.
But also remember that:
-$4,000 (initial output)
+$5,760 (low-ball estimate of one 2 month cycle)
--------
+$1,760
-$ 760 (product testing)
--------
+$1,000

Then each month up to the year (5 more cycles)
$5,760
x 5
-------
+$28,800
-$ 3,800 (product testing)
---------
+$25,000
+$ 1,000 (1st month profit)
----------
+$26,000

Wow, if we lived in a perfect world, an additional $25k to anyones yearly salary would help some to stay above poverty level!

But alas, even in California where local governments laws are a bit more relaxed, where as federal Laws still are adamant about classifying things heavy handedly.

Landlords improving our electrical circuits this year at some point. I will do some measurements and decide then if it's conducive to growing stealthy-style.

Jammin'