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Old 05-18-2007, 12:48 AM
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Default 3 Fan leaves per new node
A few of my plants have started growing 3 fan leaves per new node, even some plants that dont have them at the top growing tip have started growing them on what will become my clones.

Theres nothing wrong with the plants and there all growing fine it just I have never read about 3 fan leaves before,

The most formed set all have 7 blades per leaf and from that look to be growing 3 side branches..

Anyone else ever had this happen ?
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never known it to happn, sounds odd to me
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Old 05-18-2007, 05:27 AM
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no joke theres 3 fan leaves m8, I will be getting some pics done tonight or first thing 2moro.

I have not done any toping or Fim-ing this has just happened, like I said also some of the lower branches on a different plant also have 3 fan leaves

I will update and show you once I have the pics
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Here is what I was talking about
Once they grow out I will get some better shots I have about 3 plants like this
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I didn't see your post until later and I had made a post myself regarding this. I have had this happen to 3 plants. 2 shiva shanti's from sensi, and one Jock Horror from nirvana...it started with three cotyledons and then i had three fan blades at each node. There is such limited reading about this out there that i would appreciate some insight into this as well. Is this a desired trait, since one of the plants was stunted and the others turned out fine. Regards
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Old 05-21-2007, 09:11 AM
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I have looked about for some info and like you say theres very little. all my plants are the same hight, ones even on its 2nd node of 3 fan leaves which in a way is good as each node also has 3 branches which =s more bud for US

I though that maybe some one else would have posted as I cant see we are the only two to ever have this happen

Anyone out there with maybe an answer as to why the plants are growing like this?
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They are evolving greater surface area to absorb the HID lamps and higher CO2 levels.

We are seeing evolution happen. No, we are directing evolution.

Just a thought.
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think we could get some more pictures buddy : )?
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Yea sure once I get a camera back...

I still had this one on my pc you can see it a lot better in this one and some nice yellowing of the leaves
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Hiya Bigbud

I think what you're seeing is what's called a Trifoliate or Whorlled Phyllotaxy plant, it's hard to tell from the pics you've put up. What usually happens is the leaves grow in opposite alternate pairs ie each leaf grows opposite each other and then turns 45 degrees and goes up a node and grows another alternate pair. In Trifoliates or WP plants, instead of two leaves growing opposite each other, three leaves grow from three separate nodes and still turns 45 degrees and moves up a node and grows another three leaves. I had one as a clone in my last grow, photo attached. You can clearly see the WP plant on the left.

Whorlled Phyllotaxy is a growth disorder and most WP's grown from seed turn out to be male, although some can be female. Of those that turn out female about 20% will produce a larger yield, 20% a reduced yield and about 60% an average yield.

It's nothing to worry about at all, just keep a close eye on it for signs of sex.
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