Spittn4cash, you make an excellent point. I tried to use the scientific method to the best of my abilities but was limited by the number of seeds available and the amount of space/lighting available. I never considered the bleach in paper towels. Excellent point. I've never tried shop towels so I have no basis for comparison. Next seed grow, I'll give that an equal shot as well.

I don't consider it flawed in my conclusion that soil moist may be better than paper towels. I will try to compare it to shop towels as well as soaking in a cup of water and any other germination method I can find. On the bright side, three days germ and two days to sprout is pretty nice.

If anybody else has some seeds to test with, I invite you to try all methods and compare. I thought this was worth testing and had the seeds to spare. I seriously doubt it'll have much impact in the long run but I'm always willing to test any logical hypothesis. I went into this without even knowing it would work and had great success.

Cheers!

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LOL, a wet sock! No shit! There's no reason for people not to get great germination rates no matter the medium. That's great stuff ABS. The only reason I tried this was because I had some issues with roots grabbing hold to the fibers of the material (paper towels) I was previously germinating in.

I think the reason my Soil Moist sprouts are doing well is because they retained a little of the Soil Moist material when I moved them to soil. Who knows? Maybe it all was just luck and the Soil Moist method is pointless to begin with. Hell, they could develop root rot before the first true leaves appear.

In any case, I'll post results every Sunday. I've got the soil moist seedling pots marked for reference.

Cheers!

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tcg do you think that you could clone in the soil moist?

best way to spruce seeds is to either coat the seed itself with root/cloning hormone or tread the medium in which it is planted with this. seeds pop up in less 48h to about 95% i would say. never had a failing seed nor had to wait longer then 48h for the first leaves to show

try it

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keep the thumb green and the gun oiled, !

sure you can clone in moist soil, as you can in a water glass. you can even clone without rooting hormones used, it has been all done before

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keep the thumb green and the gun oiled, !

er... should i say... can you do it effectively? as much so as rockwool or oasis cubes? i ask because the soil moist is readily availible to me as the others are not...

yeah i guess you can clone in horrible conditions
but is soil moist NOT a horrible condition?
i guess thats what my question is

it is very possible that roots grow in that, you need no rockwool for the trick i switched to soil at the moment and start and clone in jiffy tabs, of course i use an agent to not to push my luck an single inch but it will work to 50% even without such an agent. also, must gardening centers carry rooting/cloning hormones, i bought my there. walmart has for example a good choice even if i had walmart so it is not trick to buy that stuff, and if they ask say you taking clones from your mom's/sis or who ever sill plant they never ask

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keep the thumb green and the gun oiled, !

what you could do as well is to dig a low branch into soil and leaving it still attached to the plant for 2 weeks or wrap soil with some foil around a branch, that works too but takes a bit bigger plant to do so.

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keep the thumb green and the gun oiled, !

i did the same thing here, fast germination: dirt vs dirt + towel, then as the sprouts came up I used greenthumbs rooting hormone to get some extra rooting action out of the seedlings. My conlcusion was that dirt was better than paper, so right on TCG, we're on the same page.

I have always, well my last two times germinated in dirt because I never understood the logic behind having a root pop outside of the dirt. I guess that s a dirt farmers perspective...

As far as the superthrive, I AM A BELIEVER! that shix revived two of my deadest plants. they have now been rejuvenated and are getting new growth! The bottle says to use at every watering, so I wont argue with that, even though it smells like piss.

I also use it outside on my vegetables, superthrive saves!

gracias verde