heat problems and electreic bill problems solved!!!!

cfl veging is great.
i would invest in a 400whps for flowering.
you wouldnt regret it

I would put my 400 in there if i thought it would help but with my bills so high i doubt i will cause it has blown my mind how good its doing now. I know the cfls your talking about are blue spectrem but they also have red spectrem whitch i swoped to when i started to flower.

some people are happy with popcorn

you do know the 400 watt hps uses around 400 watts of power, but also puts out around 55,000 lumens.. you would need 30 of those cfl's to get the same amount of light. by then you're using near 800 watts of power. cfl's DO work, but you need more then just 1 or 2. maybe 2 per plant. they are good for getting them closer to the plants, or for small grows. larger amounts of plants love the super high lumens.

hid lights are great if the situation permits it...a lot of people rent apartments or houses and cant cut holes in walls or ceilings for ducting the heat hid lights generate...you can grow some nice bud with cfl lights...may not be primo bud that some people would rather have but it will still be much better than going to the local dealer buying it...if someone wants to grow with cfl lights that is their choice for their situation...they shouldnt be criticised for at least trying

CFL for cloning ...not for serious veg stage. and flower...

Originally Posted by dtankd

CFL for cloning ...not for serious veg stage. and flower...

it might not be the best in terms of running cost, but for a quicker cheap set up, or to invest a smaller amount of money in lighting and slowly expand, cfl's can work great. my plants are growing at a tinny bit over 1 inch per day under 100 watt cfl's. they are about 14 inches now and I just started 24 hours of darkness, something else cfl's are great for I currently have 8 cfl's over 9 plants, but I need to double that to something more like 15 150 watt cfl's for flowering. next grow, I should have a hps for flowering. anyway, my point, 1 inch of vertical growth per day under a few cfl's. they really are not the limiting factor. maybe it's just the grower and methods that limits the effectiveness of cfl's.

Originally Posted by kushmaster2821

I have found that flouracents are the way to go! A normal 100 watt bulb pulls 100 watts and puts out 1800 lumens. Well a flouracent 100 watt puts out 1800 lumens and only pulls 26 watts. Using a 2x2 closet you would usually use a 400 watt hps. Well I tested the lights myself and put 4 100 watt flouracents on some og kush and N.L. #5 all grown in soil. The flouracents also cut down dramatically. If any questions or comments let me know. Also if you wanna check out my stuff i just have one pic of the og kush on my profile pic.

The incandescent equivalent onn the cfl's doesn't mean a thing! A 26 watt cfl puts out 26 watts of light period. 4 26 watt cfl's do not equal a 400 watt HPS bulb! 4, 26 watt cfl's put out 7,200 lumens, a 400HPS puts out 55,000 lumens.