i call you what you are cause you intentionally mislead people by what you write. you are a lying POS. and it looks like a racist and likely a diddler as well

I intentionally mislead people? How? By informing people that if they buy a Volksgarden they should expect to have 10-12" plants? I challenge anyone here to call omega garden 877-962-3278 and ask them how large they recommend you let your plants grow. The lady I spoke with on Friday told me 10" is best, 12" MAX.

What else have I "lied" about?

she is just trying to help your pathetic stupid ass. cause if you grow it into the cool tube then you not going to get the kind of yields you can get if you find the sweet spot.

obviously you can grow in all the way and fuck up every time if you are so stupid, but you say it like there is only 12 inches of space to grow your plants in.

i just measured my volks and its got 19 inches from the top of the media to the outside of the glass tube which is 1 inch more then the rotogro i believe

yours is the kind of attitude that keeps people from posting their grow shows

Hmmm, well then why do you claim to only grow your plants to a max of 12" too? Check out post #16: popular science gives omega garden the nod



Really? How did you do that if you don't own a volksgarden? According to yourself, you have one of the older models but would PREFER a volksgarden. Check out post #31:
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Oh, so it's my attitude that keeps you from posting the awesome pics of your omega grow? LOL interesting argument (If you're 12), well I've been a member for about a week, and you've been here for about a year and a half, so you had plenty of time before I came along to post pics.

Based on the findings I have shown publicly here, I submit that you are the one who is a liar and a fraud. Maybe that's why you throw the term around so loosely!

you just dont have a good understanding of the problem with expanding into a diminishing diameter and no amount of educating is likely to get you there

look at the date that was posted asshole and you will see that it was a year ago - good luck next time POS

"your kind of attitude" believe me you POS attitude is not unique

I just think you're uptight and don't know how to use your words...

What does the date of the post have to do with anything? You still said it. So, what, now you grow your plants higher? Again, use your words instead of getting all antsy in your pantsy and attacking.

Anyways, you and I are going to have to get a room if we go any further. We have totally derailed the OP's thread. I'm graciously bowing out of this "debate."

the date has to do with the fact that i now have volksgardens, not about how tall i grow my plants.

get a room? you wish, how about 30 seconds in a cage match - you have no idea what grace means

Omega: I have read this entire thread among many others regarding you, and these grow cylinders. First I have to say, it seems as though you understand the design engineering and construction of these units, second it seems you know a little bit about using them to grow, and thirdly it seems that you exaggerate, lie, and abuse people verbally to prove your "points". You get very hot headed whenever someone posts any negativity about these units (a couple certain models in particular) which leads me to believe you have some connection to these models, or points out when you contradict yourself (which you don't even bother to edit out) which you have done many times and in many places (a few of them already pointed out above). Another contradiction that I noticed besides growing 12'' is there was a post saying you Couldn't post pics because it was the summer time and you don't use it during the summer (which doesn't make a whole lote of sense), and then on a different post you are describing how you have had the same unit going constantly for 2 years strait.

You are becoming very unpopular around the forums (just some info you may be interested in) not that I feel either way for you, because personally I think these units are a waste of time and money, indeed I KNOW they are, and don't know you so your opinion doesn't matter.

Bill: You seem to have a very well rounded attitude, and a good attention to detail, I commend you.

Yeah, I know Omega: "I am a POS too, and my attitude sucks too, and I don't know what I am talking about, and I can shove it, and you are the supreme OmegaGardener, and I shouldn't be stepping on your toes." So there is your post.... your welcome for me making it for you... honestly, I don't care what you write about me on here... as your opinion is worth less to everyone on here everyday so they don't care either... and anything more than this post is probably a waste of my time.... oh yeah I know exactly what the problem with expanding into a diminishing diameter is, as my dad has been a botanist for 30 years, and has used a unit like these before many times (lol, all the way back into the 70's).....

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there are people about to spend 100s of millions of dollars on this type of tech to grow food in vertical farms across the globe so maybe you better speak up so they can hear you cause its such a waste. why are most dope growers so fucking dense?

your father used one in the 70s eh? well unless he worked at epcot with that 50 rpm unit then its not very likely

when you say something then a year passes by and you say something else then just maybe things have changed in that time or is that too far above your pay scale to comprehend. i dont care what you think at all of anything but when some POS is going to call me out or say the math is wrong then i will speak out. so uh...thanks for your concern and fuck you very much

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Can you please elaborate and give specifics? I am seriously considering dropping 5Gs on a Roto Grow or GI Grow in the next week rather than having 3-4 traditional ebb and flow tables under 4 or 5,000 watts for my first ever hydro grow. I would really apprecciatte some honest feedback from somebody who actually has experience and credibility growing WEED in a rotary garden. Thanks.