Originally Posted by budz420

the only poppies that contain opium are Papaver Somniferum. California poppies and Iceland poppies do have chemicals that will chill you out, but no opium.

Originally Posted by Seamaiden

I thought it was Papaver orientalis that was the opium poppy. Sheesh.

Originally Posted by ShadowHawk

Hey Kochab I have a pretty damn good idea of what you went through. Unfortunatly I am currently addicted to opiates ( Oxyconton is my opiate of choice). At first I just took it to calm me down because I used to have real bad Social Anxiety and it really helped. But one night i was ride home and it hit me that I was an addict. You never see it coming before its to late to stop using. Opiate addiction is like being in a cage, it keeps you from doing the things you love and most of all traveling (which I love) unless you have enough to last. And the worst thing is the withdrawls. Its like having the worst flu in the world, your entire body hurts and you're never comfortable ever until you can get a fix. I have found a natural plant extract that is 100% legal and works wonderfull for any opiate withdrawls and its called Kratom. The strong extracts come in a powder form which you mix in a liquid of your choice and drink it. It feels like true opiate pills and allows me to function rather normally without opiates. As well as giving me that nice calm feeling. So anyone thinking of trying opium or opiates beware of the dangers of addiction. I'm just trying to give others the proper warning about the killer withdrawl symtoms of addiction. So try to keep your use to a minimum and youll be fine. Just dont let it take over youre life like I did. Peace to all and Happy token

Originally Posted by kochab

Opium to me is a totally different thing. Smoking a bowl of opium will make me just wanna lay there for a long ass time and not do anything. The best way i can really describe it is like the worst couch lock in the world from weed, while still giving me enough mental clarity to where I can still function if I choose to.
heroin on the other hand, takes over your every thought, and is the fuel behind half of your actions. Meaning once you are hooked on it, thats all you wanna do. And once you have run out, youll be doing just about anything you can for money so you can acquire more.
While I was on heroin I couldent really sit still. Like EVER....no matter how bad i needed or wanted to.

I know a lot of old reformed smack addicts that a bowl of opium would drive them screaming back to put heroin up their nose or in their arms but for some reason with me it takes the urge to do heroin away. I can sit there and be as mellow as the day i was born, and it never makes me crave any more opiates.
For some reason I still get withdrawals and i have stopped using heroin 4 years ago. I dont know if i will ever stop.....some days I wake up and out of nowhere I think "damn i could use some shit" it dosent even necessarily have to be a bad day. I generally try to ignore it but sometimes its just too damn bad. On one of those bad feeling days if i sit back and smoke a bowl of opium, or even just enough for it to get in my system, I stop feeling that way.
all in all I suppose Ive replaced the addiction with a means to deal with the way my body deals with not having heroin


hope this helps you understand it a bit more.
Opium is not the evil drug that heroin is for some reason. Maybe its just because its been left alone the way god intended/created it to be. It hasnt been reformed 3-4 times from different substances to get to that evil point.

Originally Posted by Mushroom Mesiah

Im glad you could find an alternative for herion

Originally Posted by kochab

Not to sound mad, but an alternative is something you occasionally use because your drug of choice isnt present. I stopped using because i didnt want to be a junkie anymore, not because I couldent find any

the opium occasionally helps me with days that make me want to use, Not all people are that way. Kratom is supposed to be very good for someone suffering from withdrawls.