..never said you couldn't. I did in fact say it is Difficult to train and Hard to get a desirable style/look. I still ask you to show me a picture of any natural looking willow bonsai. Easy to root hard to train, thats why they are not a good candidate for bonsai.

Interpreted.. isn't that like an o so valid assumption? There are MANY different types of tree (or shrubs if you're so inclined) that are all around bad choices for bonsai, especially for the person I was originally talking to about this, or any other beginner. Many tree types have random die-off for no reason, others are to vigorous for trained growth (willow qualifies for these two), some are practically impossible to clone (two outta three ain't bad).. THESE are some of the reasons tree type is important when raising bonsai.

To finally end this charade of "I grow more trees than billy" I will leave you with a picture of a true bonsai. This is my Japanese maple (07-06-2007):

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thats a nice bonsai how tall is it?
and how many points on that maple leaf maan?

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just a little under 19 inches. much larger than most my other trees.
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Hah.. how many points... let me see. ..

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nice.. hey you forgot to mention digging for bonsai.. i found a beautiful colorado blue spruce that i dugg out of the ground recently. i clipped alot of the foilage and trimmed the roots down and potted it.. we will see how its doing in a couple of months......i also just bought a bunch of japanese black pine seeds from mishobonsai.com that i started germinating yesterday...

this thread is crazy i didnt know there were so many bonsai/marijuana growers. like myself!!!

trent that maple is absolutley perfect... it must be over 20 years old !! did you start it from seed or buy it?

I just asked this question at the growshop i go to, he said to first scrape off the a 1/2 tall ring of bark, but not too deep on the branch while it is still on the tree, then take a cloning gel, and apply to the area which had bark removed. Still leave cutting on tree and apply treated rockwool, or he prefers peatmoss around the cloning gelled area. Moisten medium and wrap with bag to keep moist, after a while, your branch will grow nodules and start a root system, then you just remove medium let the nodule grow to the size you want and snip off branch below cloned area and plant into bonsai pot. He showed me how right inside the growroom in the shop on a cherry and a maple both genetically over 100+ years old. pretty cool stuff, speaking of bonsai, anyone remeber the bonsai kitten website?