wbs=Wild Bird Seed it's really cheap like 5lbs for a couple bucksOne avreaged sized bag should be enough to grow pounds of shrooms

thanks crasz. i read up on a bunch of that stuff today, seems easier than stuff like brown rice flour, which is what i was planning on using. however the guide i saw was for quart jars, which i dont have, i already have 1/2 pint. and that method seems to produce the same amount as pullin' weeds. i guess im just curious which is easier?

the rez effect is easier, if you guys dont know what it is you should read it. its like, soak wbs overnight, strain it.....ur done. and its probably easy to just pour directly into a foil pan like pullin' weeds said he did.

JB

Yeah - as far as I can see, this rez thing is just fruiting in pans rather than cakes.

If that's the case, 1/2 pt jars would be just fine. you just need alot of them. After they're colonized you pour them into a pan and fruit them.

In my case, I'm using my jars to re-innoculate a pan of coir. Just like you innoculate a jar with a small amount of spore, I innoculate a pan with a small amount of mycelium.

It's extra steps, but I end up with loads more substrate to grow from without the hassle of pressure cooking

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so you don't do any pressure cooking at all pullin weeds? how do u make sure everything is sterile?

JB

you have to break up the bird seed to help the mycielium(sp) grow faster and cover more surface area, after your jars are colonized you mix them with perlite or vermiculite then poor it into a tub and cover with perlite or vermiculite and then let the mycilium cotinue to grow untill the caking layer is coverd and introduce it to light to frut them it yeilds moe han cakes becaus basicly it is one giant cake

i cant get my birdseed jars to colonize i only got 1 so far any ideas?

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Here is the steps I followed... [my particulars are in brackets]
All steps are done in a clean area. Lysol, clorox wipes etc...

1. Prepare substrate, put into jars [cook brown rice]
2. Sterilize and cool [Pressure cook 1 hour]
3. Innoculate with spores [golden teacher]
4. Incubate till colonized
-- wait --
5. Prepare bulk substrate. [Rehydrate Coir]
6. pasturize bulk substrate. cool. [Microwave about 10 minutes - temp to 190 or more]
7. break up and dump colonized cake into bulk, mix and dump into pans.
8. Incubate till colonized.
9. cover with casing layer [50 verm / 50 coir]
10. put in fruiting chamber - mist, fan and wait for mushies...

Within the steps, you can change the variables. WBS should work just fine.

Often people will just go from 4 to 10 and birth the cakes directly.

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Whats the Temp? What process did you follow?

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doc's wild bird seed tek on shroomery.org

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For an incubator I use a fish aquarium heater. I bought 2 plastic storage tubs the same size. I filled one up 20% with water and attached the heater to the bottom with the included sucktion cups. The automatic heaters keep the water at 78f. I place the dry empty tub in the water filled one,floating on top. I used wild bird seed in quart jars.

In a nut shell I rinse seeds through a collander several times to get off chems. I take out all floater seeds ie:sunflower seeds. I then soak the seeds for 12 hours. I re-rinse then I let seeds dry for 1 hour and 3/4 fill qt jars with seeds. Place lids with holes in them on, and cover with aluminum foil. I pressure cook them for 40 mins, & let sit overnight. I use a glovebox and I inoculate the jars with a spore syringe. I use Z-strain because it is a fast spawning mushroom. It is not as potent, but you can get it to turn around faster for more "ADD" growers waitin on buds.

I place the jars in the afore mentions tub, and cover it with the lid it came with and a blanket to keep light out. 10 days to 2 weeks is about what it should take to get it completely caked. You will see white mycellium after about 4 days. When it gets about 20% spawned, shake the jars to get the mycellium to spread faster through the WBS. After 80% coverage stop shaking. This should answer your questions up to this point to the best of my teaching skillz! Good luck!

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