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Old 11-05-2009, 04:25 PM
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Hey all,

TusselTussel nailed it. I live in FL, where ALOT of people grow oranges and lemon trees, including myself, so hopefully my advice will help.

Certain species of plant change their genetics with every seed. This is why if you plant a red delicous apple seed you don't get a red delicious, or if you plant a naval orange seed you don't get a naval orange, also both take at least 12 years before they will bloom.

To correct this farmers make grafts of the desired tree. This entails taking the growing stalk of a "wild" apple/citrus tree (whichever your aiming for) and grafting a branch of the desired tree onto it, thus allowing the "wild" root system to supply the branch. Its kinda like a heart transplant. It is also a pretty difficult task to get down (you think cloning is hard :.

You can continue to try and clone small sapling branches, but I think you will have a GREAT waste of time.

Good luck.

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Take one of the limbs that you would like to clone.

Cut it at an angle and almost completely in half, but not quit all of the way.

Pack a decent amount of dirt between were the branch was cut and pack it in and then put some black plastic around the break in the limb holding the limb back in place and tie the plastic somewhat tightly around both sides of the break and then leave it alone for six weeks and you should have roots growing from the cut branch and you can cut it all the way at that point and plant it........done.

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have herd of this being done or something similar never done it but seems like a way better bet than traditional cloneing
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Old 11-05-2009, 07:05 PM
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I could do graft, but I do not have an existing tree to graft too. That is why I am aiming to produce a copy of the one he has now for my own future yard. This is where the Air Layering is looking like something I can try. Worse comes to worse, I can graft onto one of my parents' trees. They live close enough that I can collect fruit occasionally.

The other thought would be just to steal the tree when he is not looking...
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not sure if this will help but i cloned a japanese vine maple this way.

take a cutting that is about 5 inches long with 2 nodes on it. below the lowest node have about 2 inches of branch. than just take a razor and strip the bark. put rooting gel onto the stripped part and then put into rock wool, vermiculite or soil.

also do a search on air layering. this is done by just taking a branch thats already on the tree, then stripping some of the bark off. then what you do is take a small amount of burlap or something like it and basically just put damp soil in the burlap and wrap the whole thing around the part where the bark is stripped. the branch will still recieve nutrients from the tree and be able to survive, but at the same time roots will grow from the part where you stripped the bark into the soil that is held on by the burlap. once the branch roots than just simply cut the clone off below the rooted part and plant it somewhere else! good luck!!
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Old 11-06-2009, 04:27 PM
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oops looks like you already were lookin at air layering..... i would do it that way for sure.
 

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