That is THE Debate. "NPK" is all the same. This example applies to all chems vs. organic. Lab/man made calcium tablets sold in stores is #1. A low quality calcium compared to natural "Micro Live" Calcium. #2. The absorbtion of chem nutrients/minerials if 85% less than natural living vitimins, etc. End result is poor quality & less absorbtion. It is NOT just the NPK, it's a LOT more than that. Believe what you will.

Your mixing apples and oranges. No amount of organic fert can match commercial grade fert in food production. Kind of why the entire farming community uses it. Kind of why organic foods are so expensive. The yield is less....

My nursery grade fert will outcompete any organic in cost and effectiveness.

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look what ive started.

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no worries here. Organic doesn't suck, it's just not efficient.


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You must mix organic with companion planting for good results. Planting certain plants next to each other creates a beneficial action.

Desod the area, cover it with compost, till it, make it grow. And anything you kill in the process of tilling... there's probably millions more where they came from. Tilling increases yield substantially by allowing roots to grow bigger, faster, and stronger. Especially tilling in compost/manure.

I'm not sure what CrackerJax is going on about. My organic compost is 100% made-up from things I'd otherwise throw away. There is no cost. Only a small amount of labor.

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What method do you use to de-sod? I thought about covering the ground with tarps for the winter so things would die off.

I'm not going on about compost...I've never heard of chemical compost, so that part is a no brainer. I use compost myself for my garden. I was referring to fert's which are applied after. There is a lot of misinformation out there that organic fert's are superior to chem fert's. Nothing could be further from the truth. That's all.

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what do you guys think of this- i planned on using my old reservoir juice in my garden. i change it every 2 weeks in the veg room and its DTW in the flower room, the ppm is pretty much the same when i change it. i planned on diluting it 50% or so as well.

good idea or no?

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Try it on a few things and see how it works. That's what I would do.