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Old 03-10-2009, 06:48 PM
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kuel youre into bonzi too! another gardening offshoot that i have wanted to get into, if ya got some spare time a bonzi, or introduction to, bonsi would be cool!
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im down with the peppers too!! picked up my love for them and for growing them from my grandfather... (the greatest pepper grower i know)

im going light on the chilis this year... had WAY too many tabasco and habanero last year.... limiting this year to some yellow peter pepper, some more tabascos (since they came back from last years stump), some hot banana (hugarian wax i believe), and an unknown birdeye variety i saved from grandpa's house last year....

doin plenty sweet peppers too... not too sure what kind though, except for the sweet banana peppers... love those guys.

+rep for the long pepper posts; and good luck with the seed company... i'll be following, and may be able to gift you with some southern US peppers that you may not be able to find there
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im down with the peppers too!! picked up my love for them and for growing them from my grandfather... (the greatest pepper grower i know)

im going light on the chilis this year... had WAY too many tabasco and habanero last year.... limiting this year to some yellow peter pepper, some more tabascos (since they came back from last years stump), some hot banana (hugarian wax i believe), and an unknown birdeye variety i saved from grandpa's house last year....

doin plenty sweet peppers too... not too sure what kind though, except for the sweet banana peppers... love those guys.

+rep for the long pepper posts; and good luck with the seed company... i'll be following, and may be able to gift you with some southern US peppers that you may not be able to find there
tHANX Gogrow!
Since its not illegal I guess we can trade all we want ??? - if thats the case..... then my HYBRID BHUTs when they come will be killer and will increase some heat in some sweet peppers to useing the BHUTs genes with say your fav Banana peppers ! that would be intresting....

My next chase is rare and hot ASIAN peppers...
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and I really want the HOT LEMON ;

AJI LIMON / HOT LEMON
c. baccatum

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Hot and fruity with delicious citrus flavours.
Great in salsa.



Heat: 7 - 8
Chilli Size: 6 cm
Matures:
green to bright yellow










How is your tabasco - I will grow them but is such a common strain! if I was to grow it would be to cross....
I will be looking for rare and HOT varieties !
the hot banana I want as well.......
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kuel youre into bonzi too! another gardening offshoot that i have wanted to get into, if ya got some spare time a bonzi, or introduction to, bonsi would be cool!

that is a HUGE subject big fella !!!! HUGE!!!!!!! Best to get a bonsi book ... with old and new tech`s off ebay or amizon books ! !

2 pieces of advise I was given moons ago !

1. Use superthrive alot ! (Or any auxin with root development PGR`s)
2. and stick to tru old saying (for any plant but bonsi inparticular !)
"feed the soil not the plant !"
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i grow chillias as well. i make salsa with em.
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tHANX Gogrow!
Since its not illegal I guess we can trade all we want ??? - if thats the case..... then my HYBRID BHUTs when they come will be killer and will increase some heat in some sweet peppers to useing the BHUTs genes with say your fav Banana peppers ! that would be intresting....

My next chase is rare and hot ASIAN peppers...
&&&

and I really want the HOT LEMON ;

AJI LIMON / HOT LEMON
c. baccatum

Peru
Hot and fruity with delicious citrus flavours.
Great in salsa.



Heat: 7 - 8
Chilli Size: 6 cm
Matures:
green to bright yellow










How is your tabasco - I will grow them but is such a common strain! if I was to grow it would be to cross....
I will be looking for rare and HOT varieties !
the hot banana I want as well.......

yes, i imagine we can trade all we want in this subject.... which sparks a new idea for me... im gonna talk to the other powers that be about having a vegetable seed swap sub forum in the gardening section.... i think that would be a wonderful addition...

i wasnt talking about the tabascos per-say... i could give you some of the unknown birdeye seeds..... i only got 3peppers off the whole lil plant, but she has been inside all winter, so time for round 2 off her... i was talking more along the lines of some southern US strains that you would be hard pressed to find for sale... dont have any to offer at the moment, but i am looking for myself, and will keep you in mind if i find anything of interest...

now about the crossbreeding of peppers... i have the understanding that it is alot of work, seeing as peppers are self-pollinating... care to elaborate a little???
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Cross a chilli plant (Hybridisation)
A chile seed (like any other seed) is the mature ovule of a plant. It contains all the genetic material, and stored energy, to grow into a plant (potentially) displaying the same traits as its parent. However, hybridisation (cross-pollination between chile varieties), introduces new and different genetic material and the effects of this hybridisation can be seen in the next, and future, generations. Seeds identified, and sold, as `F1` hybrids identify first generation hybrids. Avoid saving seeds from these plants since the only predictable characteristic of the second generation is that - you cant predict it!

Almost all known species of chile plants will self-pollinating.
However, with the aid of insects and human intervention, they are also very promiscuous - readily cross pollinating with other species of chile. This cross pollination may result in viable seed. Cross pollination within the same species is almost certain to result in viable, and very vigorous, hybrids. (human intervention- brush technique grab a toothpick and just rub on all flowers of one and then a few flowers of the other .... repeat everyday for a week or two)

The following chart identifies the general rule for outcome of cross pollination between the species of the domesticated chile: -

Male/female _C. Annuum_ C. Baccatum_ C. Chinense_ C. Frutescens_ C.Pubescens
C. Annuum -- -Prolific -----Sporadic ----Prolific -------Sporadic --------Not At All
C. Baccatum - Sporadic ---Prolific ----- Sporadic -----Sporadic --------Not At All
C. Chinense -- Prolific -----Sporadic ----Prolific -------Sporadic --------Not At All
C. Frutescens -Sporadic --Sporadic -----Sporadic -----Prolific ----------Not At All
C.Pubescens --Not At All -- Not At All ---Not At All -- -Not At All ----- -Prolific





The most common Capsicum species, Annuum crosses prolifically with Chinense, sporadically with Baccatum and Frutescens but will not cross with Pubescens. Capsicum Pubescens will not generally cross with any other species, so in theory all seeds produced by a Pubescens species in a mixed garden will be 'true' and viable.

If you are planning to save seeds from a chile plant, and wish to it to have the same features as the parent, then you need to ensure: -

- That the donor plant is not itself a hybrid, - That the plant is isolated (specifically the flowers) to prevent wind-borne, or insect-borne, cross pollination.

This is especially important for commercial purposes, where you have the ability to offend all your customers! Not only does uncontrolled hybridization produce unpreditcable characteristics in future generations - it may also produce sterile hybrids, and/or non-viable seeds.

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i grow chillias as well. i make salsa with em.
Got any good recipes you can post up ??
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yes, i imagine we can trade all we want in this subject.... which sparks a new idea for me... im gonna talk to the other powers that be about having a vegetable seed swap sub forum in the gardening section.... i think that would be a wonderful addition...

i wasnt talking about the tabascos per-say... i could give you some of the unknown birdeye seeds..... i only got 3peppers off the whole lil plant, but she has been inside all winter, so time for round 2 off her... i was talking more along the lines of some southern US strains that you would be hard pressed to find for sale... dont have any to offer at the moment, but i am looking for myself, and will keep you in mind if i find anything of interest...

now about the crossbreeding of peppers... i have the understanding that it is alot of work, seeing as peppers are self-pollinating... care to elaborate a little???
Seed swap for veggy ! AND BONSI ! great idea!
CHILLIS have to have there own category!!!!! -
Please keep me in mind!.. Im always looking for new chillis!!!particular = Pubescens varities! (NOW) Even when at markets Ill pick up a few of Unkonwn varietys lately.. any strains your having trouble tracking down give us yell!

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