Stealth Hydro Bubbleponics Systems - Page 613

greenweaver · #**6121** 04-07-2009, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by growthspurt

Just for anyone who is planning on using the SH nutes... 1/4 of the MICRO should be 3.75g and 1/4 of GROW should be about 8.75g. I haven't weighed out bloom since I haven't gotten there yet..

Interesting!

My SH grow nute packets weighed in at 23.6 for Grow and 11.6 Micro. That means 1/4 Grow = 5.9 and Micro = 2.9.

So I am guessing that it's not an exact amount/ratio isn't critical.

purpdaddy · #**6122** 04-07-2009, 02:27 PM

they lookin pretty damn good to me,but yea id say theyll look better in a couple days and i know nothing about soil either so......

greenweaver · #**6123** 04-07-2009, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by drdodge29

He doesn't even need to worry about quarter strength and how much is that. It's as simple as this. If he has a TDS meter, I posted a chart to go by. As long as he goes by that chart and realizes that the seedling stage is for a couple of weeks, he will get his PPM's right. He started w/ 1/4 nutes to early. Before this, his plant really wasn't using any nutes. Now that the roots are getting nutes, the plant is absorbing those nutes and it's too strong. Has ur roots hit the water by the way? Cause if ur roots aren't exposed to the nutes ur about to go thru the samer thing. If at day 5 u think those roots are really exposed to nutes ur wrong, unless u have a TOP drip which is dripping ON TOP of ur medium. But with a bubbler? Even with the SH feeder. Ur Not TOP DRIPPING. All ur doing is wicking the nutes up the medium. SO no ur roots at day 5 or 10 is not fully getting nutes. Trust me I speak from experience. I have burnt ALL my plants, Now that I have figured these rules of thumbs out, I have learned how to administer my nutes.

Dodge

Until yesterday all my water has been grocery store distilled. I began using Berkey filtered tap water yesterday and checked my TDS before I added it. To my surprise it measured 500ppm!

I admit I am no hydro nute expert so this may be a silly question. How can I get the ppm down if I dealing with water that is so high to begin with?

growthspurt · #**6124** 04-07-2009, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by drdodge29

Are u speaking of ur feeder? NO NO NO! u need to give time for ur roots to breath and grow. Ur roots will grow a lot quicker if u feed them for 15 minutes several times a day. Ur also riskin root rot from 24/7 watering. I also had to learn the hard way about that. I had a member on here tell me to keep pump on 24/7. And besides all that I just said, it also raises the temp in ur res, when it's on. So I would just feed 4 times a day, for 15 minutes at a time. Yes other people may testify that they run their water pumps 24/7 and they've had no problems. Does that mean cause it worked for them it's the right way? NO! Root ROt.Root Rot. Root Rot! Don't do it brother. $ times a day of water is PLENTY! u'll se a big differnce in root structure. Yes I feel the roots might show quicker with the water pump running 24/7 but after a few day roots don't llok as good. Now when I feed 4 x's a day. Roots take a couple days longer to hit water, but it's more of a well structured root dydtem, instead of long stringy roots, I get fat stubby roots. They're thick as hell. Remembereven if wat I say is right and is a fact, it's stiil only my opinion.

-Dodge

HMM, in all my reading with Roseman I dont recall there ever being a schedule of when the feeder is supposed to be on. Im not saying its not true at all.. im just saying ive been reading the bubblponic threads everyday now from the first pages of rosemans threads. MAybe I looked over it. WEll ive been running the pump and the air bubbles non stop since day one (march 30th) and the lights are on 24/7. How long should I run the pump on and off in one day? I thought the whole point of the bubbleponics was the constant flow of water and air to the roots.

growthspurt · #**6125** 04-07-2009, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by drdodge29

Now that the roots are getting nutes, the plant is absorbing those nutes and it's too strong. Has ur roots hit the water by the way?

Dodge

Yes they all are in the water.

drdodge29 · #**6126** 04-07-2009, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Silva

hey guys havent been on here in a while... anywho i got a 400w hps for my plants. NEVER going back to CLFS. Just my opinion but i like one bulb thats it no more cords running all over the place. ill have a picture up in a couple days. about 2 weeks into budding.. the widow is covered in hairs.

Welcome back brother. Where's the Kitty Kat?

growthspurt · #**6127** 04-07-2009, 04:30 PM

Oh yea roseman, I also replaced those cds with something that will be easier in the future.

hey judging from this picture.. should the lights be lower or not?

Also like mentioned before... what type of schedule should my pump be on. The lights WILL be ran in 24/0 for the remainder of the plants life.

drdodge29 · #**6128** 04-07-2009, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by greenweaver

The larger plant's roots hit the deep water in 5 days and now have a pretty developed root system with many roots in the water.

Not sure why you say the SH is a wicker. The tubes pump water directly to the rockwool cubes. The water then runs down the roots.

Just curious are you running a SH system?

U got an air stones right? So the nutes wicker up the hydroton, or whatever ur medium is. I understand u have a feeder. Still that feeder shouldn't run 24/7. Remember these are my opinions from my experience. Do wat u feel is right. If SH or someone experienced w/ SH tells u to run pumps for 24/7, and u feel it'll be ok, then u should do so. I don't have a SH but it's the exact same concept. I allow my pump to run 4 times a day for 3-4 weeks. After that I remove the pump. The roots are in the water. The pumps at that point really ain't doin much. I have tried several ways. The only way that has given me great results is wat I have told u. At first, maybe a week, I would recommend using the water pump 24/7. But once u see signs of roots, u can go to 4 x's a day feeding.

-Dodge

growthspurt · #**6129** 04-07-2009, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by drdodge29

U got an air stones right? So the nutes wicker up the hydroton, or whatever ur medium is. I understand u have a feeder. Still that feeder shouldn't run 24/7. Remember these are my opinions from my experience. Do wat u feel is right. If SH or someone experienced w/ SH tells u to run pumps for 24/7, and u feel it'll be ok, then u should do so. I don't have a SH but it's the exact same concept. I allow my pump to run 4 times a day for 3-4 weeks. After that I remove the pump. The roots are in the water. The pumps at that point really ain't doin much. I have tried several ways. The only way that has given me great results is wat I have told u. At first, maybe a week, I would recommend using the water pump 24/7. But once u see signs of roots, u can go to 4 x's a day feeding.

-Dodge

I thought that the feeder also brings the roots oxygen like the airstones.. so its just more oxygen and I thought that is always good

drdodge29 · #**6130** 04-07-2009, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by greenweaver

Until yesterday all my water has been grocery store distilled. I began using Berkey filtered tap water yesterday and checked my TDS before I added it. To my surprise it measured 500ppm!

I admit I am no hydro nute expert so this may be a silly question. How can I get the ppm down if I dealing with water that is so high to begin with?

Brother that's crazy. I don't know what to tell u. I don't know if Hardwater Micro would fix that. MostlyCrazy I think is the one who knows about Hardwater. He'll probably answer u tonight. If not I would just use tap water. There is nothing wrong with tap water. Just put an airstone in it and let it sit over night. 24 hours. People spending all that money on bottled water. U can use tap water. What's wrong with ur tap water? I also bought a filter the other day but Dupont. A 4 stage carbon filter. Just like Reverse Osmosis. Removes 99% of all these things, it said. Well now my pH is at 9.2 as opposed 7.9 and my PPM went from 100 to 150. So it removed stuff that softened my water. The filter made it hareder. Though now my water tastes really good though. That's about it. So I use my tap water. Been using it for 3 1/2 months. And my plants are doin fine as far as uptake in nutes and water. So ur tap water should be fine, despite wat people tell u. The only thing is u shouldn't take water straight from the tap and put nutes in them. Let the chlorine evaporate, cause it'll kill of some of the micro thing-a-ma-jiggy's in ur nutes. Now for flushing ur plants, U DO NOT have to let ur water sit. Chlorine wil NOT kill ur plants. I am proof. LOL! Seriously though. I was told by local grower and my hydroponics supplier, and both have said it was fine for me to flush in straight tap water. Just make sure it's pH balanced. Ive been flushing like this for 1 1/2 months now. Before I was all scared about using water that wasn't aired for 48 hours. WASTE OF TIME! No difference in results. Let me know what pH and what PPM ur tap water is.

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