DWC Root Slime Cure aka How to Breed Beneficial Microbes

Neone know how to extract humic from leonardite? i just got a big bag of leonardite which is the main source of humic acids and i tried puttng it in a nylon stocking on top of an airstone in a little water for 24 hrs but it didnt seem to do very good cause the water isnt really black. i was thinking of boiling it in water but i also have a feeling it will boil away the humics

dwc definitely increases yield... aeroponics are a little better but you have to be careful with your organic nutes because they will gum up the jets. has anyone expermimented with adding raw milk to your plants water supply? it works. gives you all those helpful microbes. farmers use raw milk to make their grass grow.

dude, what are u talking about u should never use organics with aeroponics...it will cause a build up of a fungus called pythium and will make the ph rise very fast, you have to clean out you aeroponic reservoir at least every 2 days bro or pythium will start to build up

Neone know how to extract humic from leonardite? i just got a big bag of leonardite which is the main source of humic acids and i tried puttng it in a nylon stocking on top of an airstone in a little water for 24 hrs but it didnt seem to do very good cause the water isnt really black. i was thinking of boiling it in water but i also have a feeling it will boil away the humics

Originally Posted by mr.bond

Hello Heisenberg,

Thanks for getting back to me. Yes this 'after slime' is a bit strange. I will monitor the leaves closely for any additional damage, and the roots for additional slime buildup and the like. I'll take your advice and keep the H202 out of the loop for now. The foliar damage was rather slow to appear, took about a week to get to the point it's in on the pic. I've begun brewing a fresh batch of tea and when ready, will change out the buckets again to ensure a diverse culture in the tea. I've also got a fine filter bag of sorts and I'm going to use that to hopefully keep any particles out of the tea if that is causing the 'after slime' appearance. Would you think it wise to break up the slime a bit with fresh tea in a spray bottle directly to the roots? You mentioned something like that in a previous post. My thought is the slime may stick around because it's gunked all together in those spots. Perhaps if it's broken up the tea can penetrate into the isolated roots that are infected and clean them out.

Thanks again for your feedback Heisenberg. Your plants must love you so much they sing to you at night. +rep

Regards,
Mr. Bond

so wait ru doin aeroponics? cause if u use organics with aeroponics you will get a slime in the resovoir called pythium. it also raises the ph rapidly so u need to clean your resovoirs every 2 days at least and use fresh water also your ph shouldnt go higher than 6.0 with aeroponics. if i were you i would stop trying to use organics with your aeroponics cause it is pointless the micobials all die ne ways in a system like that... and turn into bad bacteria such as pythium or "slime"...an organic approach to aeroponics is basically pointless especially wasting your time to brew teas for such a mediumless medium. If you want real organics the only way the microbes can survive is in soil or coco or in a pond with fish and a living grow medium is THE POINT of organics...your best bet is to just use "hydro" nutes that are NATURAL to stay as earthy as possible but still use aeroponics. Your plants will love it much better than the tease of organics in an aeroponic system which only ends up hurting them neway...Just remember that true organics is represented by a microbial lifeform that bonds to the roots and feeds off the carbohydrates in the plant and soil, in exchange for this the microbes feed the plants the nutrients in the soil via its waste system, with aeroponics nothing can ever get a chance to bond to the roots because there is no medium so the only way the plants can feed is through chelated salts the dissolve in the water making it instanty available to the plant. Also h202 kills off hese microbesin organic matter which is why you had a buildup of pythium or "slime" which is basically dead microbes that turm into bad bacteria, AND using nething such as commercial ph adjusters aslo kills the beneficial microbes...so stop trying to use organics with aeroponics is basically the botttom line.

Originally Posted by coolupdscene

Neone know how to extract humic from leonardite? i just got a big bag of leonardite which is the main source of humic acids and i tried puttng it in a nylon stocking on top of an airstone in a little water for 24 hrs but it didnt seem to do very good cause the water isnt really black. i was thinking of boiling it in water but i also have a feeling it will boil away the humics

You should be banned for copy and pasting your own post three posts down from your original IN SOME ONE ELSE'S THREAD. Have some consideration...would ya? (maybe even start your own thread?!?!??!?!?!??!)


EDIT: you shouldn't be banned, i was upset...but still...think about it.

Originally Posted by coolupdscene

Neone know how to extract humic from leonardite? i just got a big bag of leonardite which is the main source of humic acids and i tried puttng it in a nylon stocking on top of an airstone in a little water for 24 hrs but it didnt seem to do very good cause the water isnt really black. i was thinking of boiling it in water but i also have a feeling it will boil away the humics

You don't have to put the humice in a sock...or the leonardite I assume....try making the tea with it free in the bucket and then strain it with a cheese cloth, you should still be able to get the bennies without the chunks. I'm guessing it'll also be blacker as it seems you want it.

Originally Posted by coolupdscene

so wait ru doin aeroponics? cause if u use organics with aeroponics you will get a slime in the resovoir called pythium. it also raises the ph rapidly so u need to clean your resovoirs every 2 days at least and use fresh water also your ph shouldnt go higher than 6.0 with aeroponics. if i were you i would stop trying to use organics with your aeroponics cause it is pointless the micobials all die ne ways in a system like that... and turn into bad bacteria such as pythium or "slime"...an organic approach to aeroponics is basically pointless especially wasting your time to brew teas for such a mediumless medium. If you want real organics the only way the microbes can survive is in soil or coco or in a pond with fish and a living grow medium is THE POINT of organics...your best bet is to just use "hydro" nutes that are NATURAL to stay as earthy as possible but still use aeroponics. Your plants will love it much better than the tease of organics in an aeroponic system which only ends up hurting them neway...Just remember that true organics is represented by a microbial lifeform that bonds to the roots and feeds off the carbohydrates in the plant and soil, in exchange for this the microbes feed the plants the nutrients in the soil via its waste system, with aeroponics nothing can ever get a chance to bond to the roots because there is no medium so the only way the plants can feed is through chelated salts the dissolve in the water making it instanty available to the plant. Also h202 kills off hese microbesin organic matter which is why you had a buildup of pythium or "slime" which is basically dead microbes that turm into bad bacteria, AND using nething such as commercial ph adjusters aslo kills the beneficial microbes...so stop trying to use organics with aeroponics is basically the botttom line.

Please take the time to read a thread before you post in it. It's made very clear that all the advice given here is intended for DWC. The microbes live just fine in a DWC environment the way we apply them, and commercial PH adjusters do not kill them. Hydroponic organics, even in an aero system, is possible although it is a very involved and time consuming project.