DWC Root Slime Cure aka How to Breed Beneficial Microbes

Sometimes the plants just give up after so much abuse. I have lost several plants including a couple after I started the tea, and it was always ones which I had sterilized and got reinfected and then sterilized and then inoculated, ect. It all amounts to stress and after so much the best thing to do is start from square one. It's always a sad and disappointing situation and also one of the reasons I enjoy helping others kill the slime.

As far as I can tell the slime is not systemic, so any clones taken from infected plants should be okay. This might offer some people a way to avoid losing an entire strain to the slime.

do you know how to dry and preseve bennies by chance ??????

Originally Posted by Heisenberg

Sometimes the plants just give up after so much abuse. I have lost several plants including a couple after I started the tea, and it was always ones which I had sterilized and got reinfected and then sterilized and then inoculated, ect. It all amounts to stress and after so much the best thing to do is start from square one. It's always a sad and disappointing situation and also one of the reasons I enjoy helping others kill the slime.

As far as I can tell the slime is not systemic, so any clones taken from infected plants should be okay. This might offer some people a way to avoid losing an entire strain to the slime.

heisenburg.........YOU SIR ARE THE MAN!!!!! thanks for posting this thread, one of my plants ended up with rot and one week ago i cleaned the res and system, then inoculated with your tea and added twice now and the rot gone. new explosion of roots and even new growth where the rot was hitting the roots the worst. i tried bleach which kept it at bay but never got rid of it and h202 that did close to nothing(for the rot). again thanks again for posting, people like yourself make the internet a valuable tool. +rep to ya too heisenburg.

Originally Posted by sappytreetree

do you know how to dry and preseve bennies by chance ??????

The method I posted a few pages back to collect and preserve microbes from the wild is the only practical thing I know to do. I think you would need laboratory conditions to actually make the powder you can get from fungi.com for $6.


A few updates:

I've always had problems with mold/mildew on my clones. I live in a swampy area and have a problem with that sort of thing, which is why I think I was prone to slime to begin with. After a while I noticed the clones that get mold, even on just one leaf, never take root. Because of the combo of sprays I was using I felt it was best to fight the mold with Zone. Zone does prevent/kill it, but you have to spray every day to keep it from coming back. I ran out of wilt spray and decided to change things a bit. I mixed some of the DM APS clone spray and added a bit of tea. I sprayed the clones once right after cutting them. 2 weeks later and I've not seen the first sign of mold, and have 7/10 rooted clones. Before I would get 4-5/10 and have to spray daily.

I'm noticing in situations where there is almost no root base, as with clones and seedlings, it is indeed beneficial to provide a little housing for the bennies, and add the tea a bit more often but in slightly less doses.

It helps to inoculate the root crown (where root turns into stem) so pour the tea through your net pot if you can.

Welll the all organics is underway at my place.... using the standards of worm castings, bat guano, volcanic mineral dust, dolomite lime, with fish ferts and seaweed from Neptunes harvest.... also made some Brew poo,,, a compost tea innoculated with the Myco beasties from fungi.com.... wish me luck... will post updates as I go along...

Damn Heis!!! Thats a DOOM and GLOOM response!! lol You must work in the e.r .. the guy that tells all the family members that their loved one may not make it... No , seriously... I guess the next few days will tell if they are going to be alright or not.... My res temps at night have been to cold and that has hurt the bennies (60-62 degrees) and the fact that I added hygrozyme, high brix and a bit of superthrive the last rez change... MISTAKE!!! Big Time!! Well, my very first grow,, I hope I can just make a harvest out of it now,,, I had high hopes of beating Legal in our SCROGGOFF thread (grams /watt) but it would take an incredible comeback at this point.... My plants may be down, but they are not out!! thx, Frogster

I'm in the midst of my first batch of aero clones with myco-bennies in the rez. I usually have aero clones root alright, never in 5 days like some, more like 10 to 14 days. Random losses were common though, often after the first roots already formed. I saw my best survival after I started adding a mild dose of chlorine to my ez-cloners, and maybe I should have stuck with that since it worked, but I really hope the bennies will be as effective or better.

I'm sprinkling bene powder in my two ez-cloners every couple days to hopefully maintain a living population. Stems are swelling but not quite rooted yet, soon I expect. Water is 75 deg and pH5.8, also a little Hormex and very mild bloom nutrient added.

Heisen or anyone, any further guidance? Am I doing this right?

Thanks!

Originally Posted by madcatter

Welll the all organics is underway at my place.... using the standards of worm castings, bat guano, volcanic mineral dust, dolomite lime, with fish ferts and seaweed from Neptunes harvest.... also made some Brew poo,,, a compost tea innoculated with the Myco beasties from fungi.com.... wish me luck... will post updates as I go along...

Good luck, let us know how things turn out.

Originally Posted by frogster

Damn Heis!!! Thats a DOOM and GLOOM response!! lol You must work in the e.r .. the guy that tells all the family members that their loved one may not make it... No , seriously... I guess the next few days will tell if they are going to be alright or not.... My res temps at night have been to cold and that has hurt the bennies (60-62 degrees) and the fact that I added hygrozyme, high brix and a bit of superthrive the last rez change... MISTAKE!!! Big Time!! Well, my very first grow,, I hope I can just make a harvest out of it now,,, I had high hopes of beating Legal in our SCROGGOFF thread (grams /watt) but it would take an incredible comeback at this point.... My plants may be down, but they are not out!! thx, Frogster

Well if you see any new growth on top or new shoots from the roots then they are still worth fighting for, but the longer they go into bud the less likely they will be to form new roots. You could always try to foliar feed in the meantime.

Originally Posted by poindexterous

I'm in the midst of my first batch of aero clones with myco-bennies in the rez. I usually have aero clones root alright, never in 5 days like some, more like 10 to 14 days. Random losses were common though, often after the first roots already formed. I saw my best survival after I started adding a mild dose of chlorine to my ez-cloners, and maybe I should have stuck with that since it worked, but I really hope the bennies will be as effective or better.

I'm sprinkling bene powder in my two ez-cloners every couple days to hopefully maintain a living population. Stems are swelling but not quite rooted yet, soon I expect. Water is 75 deg and pH5.8, also a little Hormex and very mild bloom nutrient added.

Heisen or anyone, any further guidance? Am I doing this right?

Thanks!

If you are using plain water and just cuttings, there will be no food in the water to help the microbes wake up. Adding straight powder is not ideal but still okay if you have some sort of root base. The roots provide food and housing for the microbes. So you probably don't have much active bacteria in your water, however it's still full of fungi spores that should find and colonize the roots once they start. You should be okay but if not, try brewing the microbes first next time. Also, if it works for you, there is nothing wrong with using bleach until the cuttings get a root base and then switching to microbes once you transplant them.