DWC Root Slime Cure aka How to Breed Beneficial Microbes

New to DWC, started a couple months ago and have been battling slime most of that time. Didn't know what it was or what to do so I shut down grow (didn't want to waste a bunch of money trying to revive small plants) I started searching around from the day I noticed it didn't find to much until this thread yesterday. I cleaned my R.D.W.C. very thoroughly and will be trying Heisenbergs recipe, with all the reports of success I'm very excited to try it out!!!!
I have a question, My friend has brewed tea for his R.D.W.C. and he was asking if i came across any reading in this thread in regards to the tea gunking up air stones. I told him I haven't yet, but I haven't gone through all 175 pages yet HA! Anybody have that issue?
Thanks a lot. I'll be sure to post how things go on my next grow.

You should always clean your airstones if you feel they might be clogged, even slightly.

I've found that brown stuff gets on the top after a couple of weeks, but not too much clogging.

One technique in culturing other beneficial microorganism is getting them fro your local aged forest. One way is finding a healthy old robust tree in your local forest.

Check the humus litter around the tree. The tree should have accumulated real deep humus, litter, compost of at least 2 feet to 1 yard deep. In this area through observation, we can deduce that soil fertility and microbial biodiversity are high.

Our goal is to trap and culture these diversed, aged beneficial indigenous microorganisms. The technique that we use in trapping these microorganisms is the use of carbohydrate like cooked rice. Microorganisms will be attracted to food.

So generally, what we do is to put the cooked rice on a flatter container with lid. For example, you can use a plastic lunch box and add about an inch of cooked rice allowing air space in the container. What is important here is a larger area to trap those microorganisms. It is suggested that you cover this container with metal netting or equivalent protecting it from animals like rats that may undig your container once you bury it in the litter, humus of your local forest. In 2-10 days (relative to temperature), you may undig your container and will notice contamination of microorganisms like white and other color molds on the cooked rice. The cooked rice has been infected now with microorganisms of your local forest. The next step is to add 1/3 amount of crude sugar or molasses to the infected cooked rice. After a week, the concoction will look like sticky, liquidy rice. You may then add equal amount of crude sugar or molasses to keep it for storage, arresting microbial activities, in a cooler area.

To use, you may dilute this serum with 20 parts water. This diluted form shall then serve as your basic forest microorganisms. You may strain it and put in a container.

Another version of trapping similar forest microorganisms is simply getting the litter, humus and spreading them sparingly to the top your cooked rice. Forest leaf molds can also be used.

The same procedure will be followed as described in the culture of local forest microorganisms.

This is awsome. But, when you put your box of rice in the soil. With the lid on? Surely you have just sealed the container with the bacteria and spores from the air in your kitchen where you put the lid on? Anyone tried this method yet? I like the idea but think it needs tweeking somehow. Burying cooked rice in the woods in your lunch box, cooky! I love it. I used to breed tiger worms in my lunch box - well ex lunch box, so this isn't that cooky for me. Another problem of this method is to find woodland litter deep and old. Not so common in England. But I am sure this is a side issue. What I truly like about this whole thread is it's so natural - I hate doctors, I hate medicine - but i love preventative treatments. Natural treatments, that seem 'un sterile' but actually are probably super sterile.

Think I am gonnna experiment with mixing cooked rice (warm) with forest humus. In my lunch box, in a warmish room, then do the sugar or molasses ting. We'll see.......

Thanks hellrazor for pointing me to this thread
Thanks heis for being so thorough, and obliging.

Peas

Ok. Maybe I have found another product I can use that rplaces the rice hassle. UK doesn't provide 'earth forest' or 'great white' but symbio have several products that seem to contain everything sugested early on in this thread. So, gonna give this a go. Someone else briefly talked about it on this thread early on but it wasn't really taken up. Reason for doing this is because I use GT's ionic range and some of there organic range (which they advised me to do). Which goes against the adding organics to DWC. Will take this issue up with them.......
I have no root problems yet. Allthough my res's are very cool. But, I want to experiment with getting my res's temp higher, and using 'tea' to break down the organic compounds that were advised by GT. Nitrozyme, Superdrive and the three different Green Fuse. All need to be applied to tepid water? Well appparently it is two parts cold water one part boiling. What ever that temp is. Not tried it yet. Are they suggesting that the organic products contain bacteria? Or are they suggesting that bacteria present in your water need a tepid enviroment? I have a glut of oxygen going into my res's and roots looking good but not so fast growing. Also using H202, and not dechlorinating the tap water for my weekly change. But thinking chlorine or h2o2 is affecting early root development. Plus, raising res temps with beneficial microbes might increase root production and oxygen uptake?

Dutch masters suggesting don't add bacteriea or myc' as just adding newts is enough, if you add enough. I agree with - but I have allready started the organics, and they were expensive so want to use them. And, even though it conflicts with the organics in DWC they defo have made a difference..... or have they? Or is it just better genes in the new seadlings? We will see. I will soon post picis of the grow, but will need to borrow a camera first. Great hobby though. Keeps you thinking. And researching. Must stick to one way first, and master it. This thread is so long! Good info though. Can't it be reduced to a 'how to'?

Originally Posted by The Dawg

I Run The Tea To Prevent Any Problems.Peace And Caught In A Crossfire

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Not sure that is a brag. LOL.

Originally Posted by BigBuddahCheese

Not sure that is a brag. LOL.

No Sir Not Bragging.Im A Firm Beliver In Preventive Maintence.
Heres Some Pics Of My Roots Starting Week 2 Flower.Look How Healthy They Are


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When I'm brewing can I add too much molasses or if I'm using great white should I use molasses at all?

Here is a question for Mr. Heisenberg (or anyone else who knows the answer). I have been reading through this thread for about 3 weeks now and have made a couple batches of tea to help my slime problem. I have had SOME success but I think things could have been better. I was using Wiggle Worm EWC, Aquashield, and SubCulture-M to make my tea. I could have sworn that I head Heisenberg say the Ancient Forest is the most important ingredient in the tea and that Wiggle Worm was OK, but not as good as Ancient Forest. So after my limited success I decided to order some Ancient Forest online (no stores near me carry this). Anyway while I am waiting for it to arrive in the mail I have been reading and I noticed on page 175 Heisenberg said that the mycogrow soluble is the most important ingredient... I know these can really be subjective thoughts but do I need to change my recipe yet again? Just wondering, I would really live to have a healthy system again...

Thanks