DWC Root Slime Cure aka How to Breed Beneficial Microbes

Originally Posted by Heisenberg

Did some reading today...

If you are adding ZHO or some other fungal inoculant (not those mixed with bacteria) add it at the end of tea making, or add it directly to the res. We already knew mycos do not activate in the tea, and it seems most other fungi do not have time to multiply in 48 hours. Some fungi like trichoderma will germinate and grow bigger in the tea, but not reach fruiting stage. The more time myco spores stay in the tea, the more likely they are to be destroyed or eaten. You can encourage more fungi (and feed bacteria) if you add a little fruit rind to the tea.

Does this also apply to mycogrow soluble? If so then the procedure would be to bubble Ancient Forest (and aquashield if you have it) for 48 hours, then add ZHO/Mycogrow and apply as usual?

Originally Posted by georgeforeman

Interesting, how does this change your original recipe? I have been using half great white, half zho.

Just use the ZHO at the end of the brew.

Originally Posted by mile.high

Does this also apply to mycogrow soluble? If so then the procedure would be to bubble Ancient Forest (and aquashield if you have it) for 48 hours, then add ZHO/Mycogrow and apply as usual?

It applies only to inoculates which contain fungi and nothing else, such as ZHO or Sub-m. The original tea recipe works just fine, so you can ignore this if you want. Some of us just like to play around with the microbes. If you have a powder which contains only fungi spores and nothing else, brewing them does little good. Those powders generally have a mix of mycos and trichoderma, neither of which will increase their numbers in the tea. You can add them into the tea at the end of the brew for inclusion or just add them to the res, preferably directly on the roots. We do get a variety of other fungi from the ancient forest soil amendment, and you can encourage those to grow, and possibly multiply, in the tea if you add a bit of fruit rind.

Originally Posted by Heisenberg

Did some reading today...

If you are adding ZHO or some other fungal inoculant (not those mixed with bacteria) add it at the end of tea making, or add it directly to the res. We already knew mycos do not activate in the tea, and it seems most other fungi do not have time to multiply in 48 hours. Some fungi like trichoderma will germinate and grow bigger in the tea, but not reach fruiting stage. The more time myco spores stay in the tea, the more likely they are to be destroyed or eaten. You can encourage more fungi (and feed bacteria) if you add a little fruit rind to the tea.

Good research Heis, thanks for the heads up. Cheers-
mr.bond

wow what an amazing thread hiesenberg, i was told to come read this from another thread, im a dwc grower,who had his first experience with pythium last grow!! im now doing a RDWC grow, i have purchased great white as i was planning on running a bennie enviroment in my res/nutes, after a bit of reading i see that in rdwc systems its best to apply these powders of great white direct to the roots? my seedling are only 12 days old and are in rockwool, they have roots showing but i dont know if these are to young for application of stuff to the roots??
there going into drip fed 220mm net pots filled with hydroton. i know from reading that these rocks do not give the bennies a ho,e to breed as there not porus enough, and for my next run il be using lava rock as they give the BB a home,

i think il try making the tea, with the great white, im in the uk so some of the stuff you mention is hard to get,

can you make a suggestion on the whole application to roots method if its worth it? or if im best just adding the tea to my res as a way to prevebt any build up of bad bacteria, much thanks for this amazing thread and all your replys mate!

sqydro

Originally Posted by sqydro

wow what an amazing thread hiesenberg, i was told to come read this from another thread, im a dwc grower,who had his first experience with pythium last grow!! im now doing a RDWC grow, i have purchased great white as i was planning on running a bennie enviroment in my res/nutes, after a bit of reading i see that in rdwc systems its best to apply these powders of great white direct to the roots? my seedling are only 12 days old and are in rockwool, they have roots showing but i dont know if these are to young for application of stuff to the roots??
there going into drip fed 220mm net pots filled with hydroton. i know from reading that these rocks do not give the bennies a ho,e to breed as there not porus enough, and for my next run il be using lava rock as they give the BB a home,

i think il try making the tea, with the great white, im in the uk so some of the stuff you mention is hard to get,

can you make a suggestion on the whole application to roots method if its worth it? or if im best just adding the tea to my res as a way to prevebt any build up of bad bacteria, much thanks for this amazing thread and all your replys mate!

sqydro

hey sqydro,

hydroton works just fine as a home for the bennies. as for your great white, brew a tea with that using the instructions on page 1. you could also mix some distilled water and great white in a spray bottle and spray it on the roots if they arent long enough to touch water. although it would be better to brew the tea, and it will make it even more effective. add the tea brew into your system, and pour some thru each netcup. this will inoculate each plant site and its roots at the crown. if you have a healthy set of bennies in your system, it will help keep it disease free. you'll have to top up with new tea every few days though. good luck!

cheers,
mr.bond

Originally Posted by mr.bond

hey sqydro,

hydroton works just fine as a home for the bennies. as for your great white, brew a tea with that using the instructions on page 1. you could also mix some distilled water and great white in a spray bottle and spray it on the roots if they arent long enough to touch water. although it would be better to brew the tea, and it will make it even more effective. add the tea brew into your system, and pour some thru each netcup. this will inoculate each plant site and its roots at the crown. if you have a healthy set of bennies in your system, it will help keep it disease free. you'll have to top up with new tea every few days though. good luck!

cheers,
mr.bond

Thanks for the reply mate, ik get on the web and hunt down the stuff, are you in the US? alot of this stuff is american i think, do i replace the aquashield with the great white then mate? Thanks again, great thread, my GW is due delivered by friday so il get on the case of makin some tea!!

Yes I am in the US. Many of the ingredients come from General Hydroponics or Botanicare, so if you know of any UK distributors that sell those lines, you might find what you are looking for. Just brew up some great white and molasses. If you can't get the aquashield, ZHO, Sub-M, Sub-B, Ancient Forest, Mycogrow, etc. then just use what you have in it's place. Without the Ancient Forest you won't get the massive diversity useful for disease fighting, but it doesn't sound like you are fighting slime. If you just use it as a preventative tea it will hopefully keep the slime away. Cheers and good luck. Make sure you brew for 48 hours.

cheers
mr.bond

Can someone please help me out here??? I am begging for help. I am a nOOb to DWC growing. I did a res change 2 days ago and these is how they look right now. Is there hope or should I cull it? Is there anything I could immediately? Please PM if you can help a DWC nOOb.... Thanks

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Peace

BKB