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Default Thinking about going bubbleponics? This should convince you...
So I posted in my grow journal a quick comparison of day by day photos of my mother growing rom seed with no bubbleponics set up (no feed lines) and then 3 from seed using the feeder tubes.

Now, this is not to force it down your throat by any means, but hopefully if anyone out there has been thinking about converting, maybe this will help them choose a side of sorts.

The pump is 20$ and the hub is about 5$. $30 max could get you the boosted growth that you are about to see.

Here they are..



With NO WATER LINES it took 4 days to get a sprout above ground from germ


With bubbleponics, this was Day 4





Day 10, no bubbleponics:



Day 10 w/ bubbleponics




And for shits and giggles lets go up as far as I have pictures

Day 16 no bubbleponics:



Day 16 with bubbleponics



I mean, it's a crazy difference for not too much additional investment. I was not a believer either until I did it. it shocked the hell out of me to be honest man.
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Very nice comparison. All us hydro folks know what a difference it makes. Thanks for posting all those pix. +rep
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Nice to meet ya homegrownhairy... ballin' ass name by the way haha.

Yea I am a little obsessed so I usually take pictures every single day. It just came up in conversation in my grow journal in my sig and I went from there and started converting some dwc boys into bubbleboys =P
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Nice..... are you using the same type nutes on both after you started feeding? If so what type?....
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I showed those pics to the BubbleHead Banquet Theater the other night.

Here is their response:




they just could NOT quit applauding!
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Nice to meet ya homegrownhairy... ballin' ass name by the way haha.

Yea I am a little obsessed so I usually take pictures every single day. It just came up in conversation in my grow journal in my sig and I went from there and started converting some dwc boys into bubbleboys =P
I thought dwc was bubbleponics. Please explain.
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very nice. i still cant get over this technique
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You already know what DWC is,a nd many growers use the wrod Bubbleponics as a slang word for DWC, since they have the bubbles from airstones.
A dude in Michigan, a friend of mine, he has a patent and copyright on the word Bubbleponics, and it means growing with Feeder tubes to each cup, from a submersive water pump. A water pumps sucks in AIR or OXYGEN and WATER, and delivers the mix to each root ball or root base, in a rockwoll cube.

on his site he says:

A true Bubbleponics System is my favorite. It uses a submersive water pump, that pumps water to an Irrigation Hub, also called an Irrigation Manifold, that divides the water into 6 streams to each grow cup and root base. It is the MOST rapid growing system available. I can get an average of one inch growth in height daily using the Bubleponics Sytem.

So, What Is Bubbleponics, Exactly?

The world’s first continuous plant feeding system, Bubbleponics is a hybrid design that takes the best from both worlds of the Deep Water Culture (aka DWC, “bubbler”) and drip systems. Since the nutrient mix is highly oxygenated, Bubbleponics converts its drip function to a constant feed flow directly to the inner roots. Without needing to take breaks to allow the root base to drain and absorb oxygen, plants in the Bubbleponic system are able to deliver unparalleled growth energy.

This advantage is particularly pronounced during early vegetative phases when the plant’s root mass is still relatively small. Cuttings placed into the system experience no noticeable transplant shock and practically start growing immediately. In experiments measured against leading aeroponic systems, the Bubbleponic design shaved, on average, four days from a two week growing cycle, a 30% growth rate increase over Aeroponics in the early vegetative stage; truly amazing. As the root mass of the respective plants grow larger, growth rate advantages were less evident, however, the plants in the Bubbleponic planter maintained their 4-5 day lead over the aeroponic plants throughout the cycle.

In a series of stress tests, plants in the Bubbleponic system performed remarkably when recovering from an over-fertilized condition. With almost the entire root mass destroyed, Bubbleponics was able to revive 67% of the plants which started re-growing new roots and were able to complete their cycle. None of the other plants in the aeroponic products survived this stress test. The tests concluded that the Bubbleponic system provided significant recovery advantages over other systems when it came to anything that stressed or killed that root mass.

Hub Feeding Ensures Consistency

The Bubbleponic design is, ironically enough, one of the first hydroponic products to use real irrigation parts. This includes a hub feed system, where the main flow from the water pump is broken up into 6 smaller feeder tubes via a pressure regulating irrigation distributor. No other plant’s sites are thus dependant on any other as they would be in most drip systems that use T’ed designs. This also ensures identical feeding conditions at each site.






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DWC is simply letting the roots hang in a nute solution with an airstone. Bubbleponics uses the same except it also has a submersible pump that circulates the nute solution to the net pots through feeding tubes.

The difference in the first three weeks is huge. I use an aerogarden which does the same thing, for the first three weeks then transplant to DWC once the roots are developed enough to hang in the water.

Many people using bubbleponics turn off the tubes after three or four weeks.

It seems that the biggest benefit is a huge jump start during early growth and root development that you get from directly feeding the root zone.

DOH! Roseman beat me to it...shoulda known he's quick.
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That explains why I thought it was DWC. It is, just with the location of the dripper tube moved and the water pump run 24/7. Well and I guess the addition of a manifold if you're doing multiple sites in one resevoir. Is is still bubbleponics without a manifold and using one plant per res?

I know not all dwc setups use a water pump but that idea is really nothing new so how did anyone get a patent on this? Seems lame.

Is it the aerogarden company that holds the patent? Just curious, I already don't like that company so it would just add one more little thing to not like about them.
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