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But you can't do the same thing with a top drip dwc run the drip pump 24/7 and it uses the same highly oxygenated water that it's pumping also. I'm gussing the reason you could get away with it and rockwool as in the pic in this setup is simply because the line feeds under the rockwool so it doesn't flood the rockwool right? No matter how oxygenated the water is it can still probably drown a plant in rockwool if you apply too much water to the rockwool itself right or no?
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But you can't do the same thing with a top drip dwc run the drip pump 24/7 and it uses the same highly oxygenated water that it's pumping also. I'm gussing the reason you could get away with it and rockwool as in the pic in this setup is simply because the line feeds under the rockwool so it doesn't flood the rockwool right? No matter how oxygenated the water is it can still probably drown a plant in rockwool if you apply too much water to the rockwool itself right or no?
I think the idea is that the feeder tube is supposed to put water about halfway up the cube. In other words, where gravity will pull it down around the root but it will not flood upward and cause stem rot. But as you say, too much water could still drown it and if you used something like a rapid rooter that wicks water up better than rockwool it would be a problem. Of course your top drip could go thru a tube down to a given point too so your point is valid.

I'm still waiting for an explanation of what it means to deliver solution directly to the inner root zone instead of misting the outer roots. That's on the SH website, where they call it a breakthrough hydroponic technology. I still say it's a solution in search of a problem and claims that it grows better or faster are bogus. It reminds me of those old-fashioned TV ads touting new and improved this or that and it now has a new miracle ingredient - complete with those pictures of like rolaids eating all the excess stomach acid. Solution delivered to inner root zone my ass.
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I had the same question as above. Can you not use rockwool/hydroton with bubbleponics then if the pump is 24/7 sounds like it would drown the babies if you did. Just empty net cups with neoprene inserts only?

We do use rockwool and hydroton rocks in bubbleponics, 99% of the time. That is the way ti is sold, anyway.
I have not grown with a DRIP and I do not have any experience with a DRIP, so it would be really assinine for me to talk about something I have no experience with. (as someone might do) But all I have read says the DRIP should be on a periodic timer, to prevent drowning of the plant and root base.
I have done 7 successful grows and harvests with the system tho, and never had mold, root rot, or a drowned plant, and I was running the water pump 24/7 for the first 4 weeks.
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Ah, see the above concerns are ones that ROSEMAN enlightened me about. You are going to pull a Homer Simpson "Doh!" as soon as I explain it.


You have the air pump pumping ridiculous amounts of Oxygen into the water correct? Right. Now, you have a submersible water pump. Good, so, the submersible water pump takes in water from around it and then feeds it up through the tubes to the plants. What hasn't clicked in your mental image of the process is that the highly oxygenated water is being pumped into the net pots, not just flat out water. So, you can't drown them because you are pumping intensely oxygen rich water into their root system =]


You can actually see lots of bubbles in the feeder tubes as the water flows to the root base.

Consider how many BubbleHeads are useing this system and over 60 starter kits a day are sold?
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But you can't do the same thing with a top drip dwc run the drip pump 24/7 and it uses the same highly oxygenated water that it's pumping also.

I do not know why not, I see no reason why not either, and I have seen many DIYers make a kit similar but use a top drip instead of the under the lid feeding and they had a successful grow.

I'm gussing the reason you could get away with it and rockwool as in the pic in this setup is simply because the line feeds under the rockwool so it doesn't flood the rockwool right? No matter how oxygenated the water is it can still probably drown a plant in rockwool if you apply too much water to the rockwool itself right or no?
The feeder tubes butt into the rockwool cube, delivering a slight trickle, a very slight trickle of bubbley oxygen enriched water and nutes.

Again, I am not experienced with a DRIP or TOP feeder so I do not know. I do not like to just offer comments and advise about something I have no experience with, doesn't seem wise to me.
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>The feeder tubes butt into the rockwool cube, delivering a slight trickle, a very slight trickle of bubbley oxygen enriched water and nutes.<

In other words it pumps water up and spits it against the side of the rockwool. And that's the technological breakthrough.
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Wouldnt keeping the solution in the res filled up so that the baskets actually hang in the solution for the first few weeks like I do accomplish the same thing? I dont see the advantage of the water pump in my case. Please clarify
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I wouldn't call it a breakthrough as they do but they're definetly onto somethin... After 30+ years in soil I will NEVER go back. The results are undeniable. And of course they're gonna talk it up and "sale" it... That's what they are there for. To make money. But that's not to say they're not onto something. I've never seen my plants look so healthy or grow as fast
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Illegal... I'm all for answering questions and helping but this is starting to sound ignorant like an led vs hps thread. Lol. Ifu have any doubt post a pic of ur ladies at any point in growth I'm sure someone had the same strain in bp ur gonna be pissed when u see the difference or hell do a side by side. Come to think of it have u even grown or are growing? Let's see some bud prono
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