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Old 08-26-2009, 04:15 AM
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BBB..Exhaust gases are mainly the CO2 gases expelled from my natural gas hot water heaters pilot light and an occasional heating of the water tank The gases are drawn into a sealed 8 x 12 flower room built in my garage. Not the living area of the house. I know it is not code, but neither is a MJ grow room in ones home. I know it sounds like a disaster waiting to happen but I don't see any difference between my DIY set up and a high $$$$$$ store bought natural gas gen like Bluox,GreenAir, or CAP ect. I do take precautions and monitor CO2 and Monoxide levels constantly. Mr. Balls , you have my utmost respect for your concern as for the safety issues that one would encounter in this DIY project.
I was going after the code violation, not the safety of it. You had said previously that you have a CO alarm and a CO2 meter, so its monitored.
But its still a violation.
(and indoor CO2 levels over 1000ppm are considered by OSHA to be a problem. Granted OSHA doesn't involve itself with small companies nor homes)
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There are some flukey risks that go along with it, ergo the code violations, but if you're monitoring CO.... I'd double check that the active draw doesn't stand a chance of altering the burn, or flaking out the pilot light though..
Oh, and if you ever have an hvac/furnace guy come for any reason and he sees that, he'll know immediately what you're up to.. Most of those guys have gone to jobs to undo stupid jimmy-rigs done up by pot growers..
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There are some flukey risks that go along with it, ergo the code violations, but if you're monitoring CO.... I'd double check that the active draw doesn't stand a chance of altering the burn, or flaking out the pilot light though..
Oh, and if you ever have an hvac/furnace guy come for any reason and he sees that, he'll know immediately what you're up to.. Most of those guys have gone to jobs to undo stupid jimmy-rigs done up by pot growers..
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I've honestly never watched those movies.. Well I think I've passed out while they've been playing, I was just never in the mood to dedicate 3-4 hrs attention to anything..
I've never really watched Star Wars either..
I'm just worried that this could potentially allow gusting back to the heater/furnace or something.. Probably wouldn't considering that every NG HWH I've ever seen has an open concept reducer above it going to the exhaust ducts, but I'd want to double check with an HVAC guy, and prevent other HVAC guys from seeing this..
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Old 08-26-2009, 07:39 AM
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I've honestly never watched those movies.. Well I think I've passed out while they've been playing, I was just never in the mood to dedicate 3-4 hrs attention to anything..
I've never really watched Star Wars either..
I'm just worried that this could potentially allow gusting back to the heater/furnace or something.. Probably wouldn't considering that every NG HWH I've ever seen has an open concept reducer above it going to the exhaust ducts, but I'd want to double check with an HVAC guy, and prevent other HVAC guys from seeing this..
the movie is called OLD SCHOOL,its a comedy,funny stuff...and yeah i definitely see you point tho,you know what i noticed,that you are one of the few people on here that really takes other people's safety into consideration,youre so passionate about that,most people would just say things like "hell yeah,thats fucking awesome set up bro" follow suit and kill themselves if it wasnt for people like you putting things into perspective...kudos to you my man
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Oh I saw that, but all I remember is Blue.. I thought the line was from the Godfather..
And I really couldn't care if stupid ppl hurt themselves (naive/uninformed ppl are slightly different).. Thing is when that kind of accident goes down, the media & police team up to cast an evil shadow over this entire hobby.. Like I said, theres no better footage than wheeling body-bags and pot plants out of the same house..

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Oh I saw that, but all I remember is Blue.. I thought the line was from the Godfather..
And I really couldn't care if stupid ppl hurt themselves (naive/uninformed ppl are slightly different).. Thing is when that kind of accident goes down, the media & police team up to cast an evil shadow over this entire hobby.. Like I said, theres no better footage than wheeling body-bags and pot plants out of the same house..
BLUE YOU'RE MY BOY..lmao,one of the funniest movies ever,but yeah body bags and weed paraphernalia isnt a good look for none of us,especially when it all couldve been prevented with some common sense
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"Come on we are all streaking"........ Just my 2 cents, it looks like a pretty good idea as long as the safety considerations are observed. In my own set up I have a HVAC duct going into my room but it is not permanent I can take it down and put original pipe back in place if I have to have someone in the basement. I think a backdraft damper would be a good idea to stop airflow going back towards water heater exhaust duct.
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I personally think this is a great idea. AS lONG as the air is monitored. Why not optimize on this gas. AWESOME!
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To clear up a couple myths.....or to show who knows how little they are talking about....here's a good start.

A natural gas flame produces CO2. Water heater....Gas Dryer....Gas stove....anything that burns propane or natural gas.

The problem comes when oxygen runs out, the flame starts to burn CO2 since there's not much left. Carbon Monoxide becomes the by-product from this point.

A simple fix....allow fresh air in the area! The same requirements with the expensive CO2 Generators give this same warning.....you MUST have a fresh air source for the burner.

The only 2 options are to supply the O2 requirement (a small fresh air stream to the heater/dryer/water heater or a big bottle of CO2 feeding the room.

What's overlooked is the fact that a bottle of CO2 is JUST as deadly as an improperly supplied gas burner. CO2 will kill you just like carbon monoxide. They both work on burning all of the oxygen in the room...and once oxygen levels get too low, they both are just as deadly.

IF you want a CO2 generator.....use a meter. Plain and simple. Neither is more dangerous, but both can be deadly.

Both produce GREAT results but the CO2 bottles are considerably more expensive.

CO2 bottles are considerably more expensive to refill as you will refill them often. Gas burners are far less expensive but generate more heat.

Personally I use a gas burner, outside my house, with a network of tubing to cool it before it comes inside the room. Less heat and far cheaper.
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