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Old 12-21-2008, 12:36 AM
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Default DIY HUMIDISTAT(humidify/dehumidify) THERMOSTAT(heat/cool)
DIY ENVIRONMENTAL CONTROLS

alright i am about to put these together and provide the steps to do so.

Thermostat:
first off we need to decide what we are going to control, in my case in order to raise the heat i am going to be using a 120vac space heater...

and to cool it i will be using a typical 120vac fan...

and i need to chose a controller, a 24vac thermostat...

and last and most important i need a 24vac controlled 120vac switch aka a SPDT relay....


Humidistat:
for this we will need a similar list,
first a cheapo 120vac humidifier...

next we need a 120vac dehumidifier...

and for the 24v humidistat controller...

and like before we need a 24v controlled 120vac SPDT relay...

I am in the process of grabbing the rest of the materials and will complete this tutorial within a couple days...

ALSO...if you are aware of lower priced items that are similar to the ones listed please make a note...
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Subscribed looking forward to seeing this all put together nice project man good luck
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Old 12-21-2008, 02:14 AM
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...UPDATE...

ok i'm going to start addressing the wiring for the relay that will allow the heater(2) to come on when the thermostat(1)(3) closes the circuit signaling the device to turn on, and when the wanted temperature is reached by the thermostat(1)(3) will open and cause the switch to be thrown from the heater(2) to the fan(5) which will keep the room cooled to the wanted temperature...now you might be asking yourself what is (4) doing in the circuit, well it is the COMMON coming from your house's power.

if this is confusing please feel free to ask questions i will continue to update as i finish different parts.
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Old 12-21-2008, 02:40 AM
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thermostat wiring....

ok this is pretty basic and oddly enough you have options here...
first off if you are using the thermostat unit above u might note that it actually has 3 points of contact but we will ignore the one in the middle because it is just a power supply option we will address later....
back to whats in the picture though, basically you connect (1) from the relay to (t1) on the thermostat and also connect (3) from the relay to (t2) on the thermostat.
note: (1) and (3) are interchangeable in our situation, meaning you can also hook (t1)-(3) and (t2)-1, but its not a big deal.
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alright a little further into the wiring....
make note with all of your units(heater,fan,de/humidifier) take the plug end and look at the prongs...notice how one is bigger than the other and same with the wall outlet...

this is going to be useful to note somehow, ie making tape labels...
by the way a little info for the next part of the thread, the white will always be connected from the units to your houses power the black will be the side in the circuit that will be getting switched on and off
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Old 12-21-2008, 05:35 AM
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does anyone want me to go on further with this or is the rest self explanatory?
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Old 12-21-2008, 05:45 AM
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Thanks for the information.

This is new to me so I'm curious, the number 5 connection does not look like there's much to grab onto? how to wire from the SPDT relay to the other devices? the themostat generates/supplies the 24 volts? the thermostat is hardwired to the 110 house voltage?

Looking forward to the rest of your lessons!


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good observation, the picture above is actually the SPST version of the relay but the location of (5) is where its at on the SPDT version.
the way this circuit works is that the actual 24vac thermostat is powered by either batteries or a 24vac power adapter.
the power for the devices comes in through terminal (4).
to give a basic idea of how it works is like this...
say you want to keep the room at 80F and the current temp is at 75F well the circuit by default is running the fan to cool but since the probe detects the ambient air is 5 degrees too cold it closes the circuit which causes the relay to flip the power from (4)(5) and now creates the closed circuit of (4)(2) which turns off the fan and starts the heater up, as the temp raises to 80F the circuit reopens and the fan comes back on.
let me know if that makes sense

also for a picture of the SPDT relay look here http://www.white-rodgers.com/wrdhom/..._06_pg0114.pdf
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Yes! You're making sense! Thanks for the quick reply and the SPDT pdf link. I understand now the thermostat is powered by batteries or a 24vac power adapter (a transformer 110v/24v like for a doorbell ringer).

#2, 4 & 5 posts are all 110 volt connections with #4 being the hot wire, correct? Either way the relay flips, a closed connection is made. either a 4/5 closed connection or a 4/2 closed connection is made.

In your future lessons I guess you'll be showing/discussing details on the wiring necessary on how to best connect the relay to the 110 devices (fans, heaters, etc.) ?

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This is interesting and I was dreading making my own high voltage switch board.
 

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