BadKat's CannaPharm: Canna Caps, UV Reactive Glowing Hash Candy, Canna 'Bombs' & More

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gioua

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snew said:
Really, really enjoy the info here. Thanks to Kitty I'm really impressed with your work.
I'm particularly interested in how the citric acid as worked for anyone. I've seen a couple of references to people making it but none to anyone with results of how theirs turned out. It would be an interesting twist.
Someone was also questioning about using liquid lecithin. I was wondering if you've used it. I would think it would it would work great since the biggest problem with LET is breaking down the lecithin molecules. On sites where people make LET Vitamin C its used but many people and seem to get good results there.

Which brings me to question concerning LET with Marijuana. Several weeks ago I began using LET Vitamin C. Then I found DIY LET Vitamin C, (thats a lot of acronyms). Heres a good link describing how its make http://www.8aloha.com/Liposomal_Vitamin_C.html. Just scroll down don't worry about signing up if you don't want to. I can't speak as to the results since I've only been using it a few weeks and I have a lot of health problems so things don't change over night. But I do seem to have a little more energy. I'm sure Kitty is familiar with this process from here first references to LET. LET Vitamins use an ultra-sonic cleaner to break down the lecithin and Vitamin. The high speed motion breaks down the elements so that 70% or greater bonding takes place. Vitamin C like many substances are largely destroyed my stomach acids and only about 16% make to the blood stream. Being bond with the lipid they pass through the stomach on to the blood stream, its easily 5 times greater absorption.
I'm wondering if Kitty has tried to bond the hash to the lecithin using this method? It appears Badkat has worked hard to calculated heating time to maximize THC conversion and LET bonding. So does anyone think adding the process after this might be helpful? Wonder if Kitty or anyone has experimented with this? The heat may complete this process well enough that it is not needed especially when used in further cooking. I'm wondering if adding the ultrasonic clean to the process in the has caps particularly might be useful?
So what do you all think?
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Tried the Citric acid method... Not a fan... meh.. sure it may work for some but.. everyone is different.. least I say I tried..
Seems that the only way to find your perfect method is to try and see what works on an individual basis.
 
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gioua

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jonnynobody said:
I didn't actually cap the oil up at the end of the process because I didn't have any on hand. What I did was smear the mixture on a piece of wheat bread which I then folded in half and chewed down piece by piece with a shit ton of diet pepsi to wash it down. Nearly puked once or twice due to the horrendous taste but I got 'er done and the high was worth the work. Next time though, I will definitely use the caps as I don't want to ever taste that hashy oil again.
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I so want to say that is EFFING nasty.........BUT. buddy I have been there... really!!
I made about 32oz of hash flavored choc about 1 year ago.. IT was potent... yet so effing nasty and I tried damn near every way I could to eat it.. choc milk-ice cream etc..

I ended up cramming em in some capsules and taking em that way..

pretty sure anyone who has spent time testing themselves with other medibles has made that one (or 2) certain edibles you MUST eat due to the amount of herb used..
 
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fumble

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LOL....so been there gioua! I use BadKat's recipes for the caps too. I don't have access to straight hash, but I sift through all my sugar trim and use that. There are still tiny tiny leaf particles, but no biggie. So the end result isn't a beautiful smooth black gold like hers. More grainy, but got damn! potent!

@snew...yes the liquid lecithin works. Lecithin is the effing key to the magic kingdom as far as I'm concerned. I have never been able to find the powder lecithin though. I use the granules in my hash oil. They take a bit longer to break down, but work just as well. Trust me, make some with and some without lecithin and you will def be able to tell the difference.
 
guy incognito

guy incognito

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BadKittySmiles said:
What you'll need:

- Minimum 5.0 grams sifted hash, or fine kief. We’re using hash collected from the strain

“Devastating Train Wreck”.

- Coconut Oil, 2.5 tsp- organic and mechanically extracted are good, naturally


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I used 6 grams of hash, and three teaspoons of coconut oil. They just make a thick black paste, even when above 77*. Like a peanut butter consistency. What am I doing wrong?

I used lecithin from a gel cap because it's all I could find.
I double wrapped everything with foil, and used the recommended times and temps. I am done with it and have it stored in the freezer.
 
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fumble

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Hey there guy...try processing in the oven a time or two more. Going into the freezer between each time. It may just need to break down some more. If it doesn't break down after 2 more times add just a teaspoon of coconut oil more at a time and mix in well to get the consistency you want.
 
guy incognito

guy incognito

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I processed it again. I let it cool almost to room temperature. I scraped a tiny bit onto a cookie. Fuck i'm baked. It was still like a syrup consistency while warm. I don't think I am going to use it in capsules. I May just mix this oil into a batch of cookies now that it's activated and bio-available.

How large of a batch could you process at a time? I would like to convert 100-200 grams of hash into oil so I can have a ready supply of highly concentrated coconut oil for medibles. Would there be a problem storing a jar of oil in the freezer for long periods? Would it be a problem to repeatedly unfreeze it to take a small quantity, then refreeze, and so on? I will be making a large batch of medibles about once a week for the foreseeable future. It would be soooo much easier to simply take a few ml of oil and make a batch of cookies than it would be to go through this process for each batch.
 
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fumble

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The largest I have made at once is 64 grams, so I don't see a problem with 100 grams or even 200. I would suggest storing it in smaller amounts though, so you don't have to thaw the whole thing every time you want to use it - once a week. I haven't made cookies with it, but for kick ass candy, I only need about 2 to 3 teaspoons and I have about 36 very potent hash chocolates. Or I add a teaspoon or two to my butterscotch for extra oomph. I would think it should last in the freezer for a good 3 months or so.
 
guy incognito

guy incognito

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Even when heated my oil had a pasty texture to it. I mixed the entire batch (6g of hash) into 30 peanut butter cookies (0.2g per cookie) and cooked them. Half got cooked for 300* for 18 minutes, and half got cooked at 320* for 16 minutes. It seems slightly more potent than the last batch (which I did no processing, just threw fresh has into cookie mix and cooked) which had 0.29g per cookie. I don't know if it was worth all the trouble. I may need to keep conducting tests on this current batch.
 
guy incognito

guy incognito

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After several days of testing I think the cookies are indeed stronger than the last batch. I am processing 52g into about a cup of oil. The consistency already seems more liquidy than last time.
 
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fumble

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Hey there guy :) glad to see the cookies turned out. I think you will notice a huge dif in this next batch. are you using lecithin?
 
guy incognito

guy incognito

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Yes. I couldn't find the powder lecithin so I am using the stuff in the capsules. I am cutting them open then squeezing the gel out of the capsule.
 
guy incognito

guy incognito

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I think my own tolerance is messing with my ability to gauge how strong the medibles are. I gave 1 to a buddy and he ended up falling asleep from it, so I guess they are pretty potent. Maybe if I laid off for a few days I could get a nice baseline to actually gauge how potent they are. Fuck that, i'll just make more cookies.
 
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Esskayy

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W-O-W!

Everything looks unreal! I have never seen any edibles with meat like that pie lol I really want to try that one!!! GJ!
 
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kindfarms420

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when i decarbed my hash/kief it just turned to a gooey chunk isnt it supposed to be powdery still? or is it supposed to get gooey?
 
guy incognito

guy incognito

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I made the rest of my oil into capsules. About 1 ml oil per capsule, and about 0.20 grams hash per cap. The high seems to take a lot longer to kick in when compared to the cookies made with oil. I took one capsule at 6pm. Took another about 8pm. Didn't get the full effect until about 2am when I was blasted out of my mind. I am going to keep the next capsule in my pocket so it is body temperature when I consume it.
 
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fumble

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Great idea Guy! Caps are great! Only way I sleep. I use the oil for my candy and stuff or when I want to add extra oomph to my baked goods.
 
guy incognito

guy incognito

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The capsules definitely take much much longer to work as opposed to cookies. I'm not sure if it's the capsule not dissolving, or my body not digesting properly, but it's taking 3-4 hours for the effects to start. By that time I had already consumed a 2nd cap and smoked, so i'm not exactly getting a good gauge on the dosage. I know 2 caps and 6-8 hours later I am barely functional.
 
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