Hello Everyone,

I have a challenge for you guys/gals involving a different recipe to cook with cannabis. Have not found anyone on the internet that has tried this or posted it on any forum. So I decided to post it to see what other people get as a result.

This recipe is for converting regular cannabis into
Delta 11-THC- carboxy [it's a wholesome new experience]
as opposed to Delta 11-THC-nor-carboxy, which is what you usually get in cannabis cuisine by following conventional ways of processing leaf or bud into butter or any other fat for that matter.

First a word on the quality and grade of the cannabis.

1] It's very important to know who grew the cannabis:
[if you don't, you really need to follow step 1 and step 2]
a] This is primarily to specifically know whether there was pesticides used on the crop, or the crop is not property flushed therefore still too high in fertilizer. You really don't want either.
- the fertilizers contain [notably] phosphorous and other nasty chemicals and un flushed organic plants may even have fecal matter and the pesticides will make you very sick, especially when eaten .
- NB -
The truly best way to know to know for sure is to grow it or know the grower

2] If you don't know where the cannabis [bud or trim] came from:
a] Most people can detect pollutants by the chemical taste you get when they smoke.the bud.
b] The other major indicator of pollutants is how black the ash is from the joint - [this test can be deceiving tho [fatties, & badly rolled joints can have a black ash from incomplc] The ash should be free of lumps, and when you rub the ash into your palm, it is supposed to have some gray color to the ash, but if there is a black oily/tar residue then there is a problem & if there's a hard ash, then that's probably pesticide.on the bud [it's water based & acts differently]
- NB - Leaf or trimmings from bud, as a rule will have a black ash, so smoking it is not a good indicator.

3] NOTE: If your raw material is fresh [or dry] trim from a grow-op or outdoor crop.
a] Most trim that is found in a dumpster or dumped period have a pesticide problem, [or it would not be dumped] and all [at least successful grow-ops] flush long enough for the outside leaf to be fertilizer free, even if the bud is not totally leached, [leaf is the 1st to drain their food to the bud]
b] Now, this next step is just a good idea, for cleanliness reasons: Wash the leaf with clean cold water [lots of it] in like a wash tub and gently stir it around, then drain and repeat, and then you need to spin dry the leaf, to take out the large part of the water.
- The best way [on a small scale] is to use a [tupperware] salad leaf dryer /spinner, then spread it out on screens to dry., and keep turning it until the leaf is really dry. it then can be crumbled [not powdered] for storage
ete combustion].



- NB- None of this washing will wash off any of the resin that was on the leaf. But pesticides are all water based, and designed to be washed off with water. After all you want to eat safe edibles

4] On the potencies of different parts of the same plant, and from one crop to another
a] All leaf is exceptionally consistent in being about 4-5 % THC levels, and they always have a higher percentage of CBD and CBN and all the other cannabinoids than the bud.
b] Bud can swing from 15-20% for outdoor, to highs of 25-30% with conditions that are great and beyond by grow ops that can tweak better conditions than nature could ever duplicate
c] Using bud simply is not as economical as using trim, but bud does have its inbuilt advantage of simply being stronger, with less green bulk, & frankly contain cannabinoids that the leaf doesn't have
d] But by just using 2-4 times more leaf than you'd use bud will get you a very similar effect, and
e] Frankly, on a medical perspective the close trimming of bud is better for you than the bud itself because of the extra fiber, which really is very
beneficial to your entire digestive system..
e] the further away from the bud you get, the weaker it is in cannabinoids versus green bulk, and
- this leaf is good for people who want a high fiber low THC content, which means you can eat 2 or 3 times more to get to the same psychoactive effect, which is good if you're wanting the fiber or
- You can also use this grade to make butter the traditional way, where you throw away all the fiber, by separating the two, therefore lump /fibre free, which is an advantage in a some dishes, and especially for vegetable oil applications, where filtering can remove all to most of the non oil base
.
5] On dose control and getting predictable results from different grades.

Rule #1: The best way to have consistent results is to process large batches of concentrate,
a] By storing really large batches of one strain, you are guaranteed to always get the same consistent results, because it's impossible to have a variation when it comes from that batch, and it can be branded as a 'strain specific' with specific benefits that address specific medical conditions,

b] As long as the supply of concentrates last as long as the next crop, means there is no real reason for a variation from one batch from the same grower, [because the conditions are similar]

- NB - You can now promote this Hash Plant [indica] bakery to be better for sleep disorder, or this Purple Kush [indica] bakery for real chronic pain,
- as opposed to this perfectly good energy filled Lamb's Breath [sativa] bakery for lunch[ed] [and your product /service becomes unique]

c] Frankly every strain will be slightly different and each and every one of them will find its niche market [consistent dose control is essential - period]
- Frankly I can't see how this notion would not create a niche for a really cool cottage cafe and or bakeries in every neighborhood market.
- It would be a welcome initiative that would better society.
- It really is a concept for a niche market that's bigger than MacDonald's,
yet best suited to personal interaction between the provider and the customer in a comfortable environment
- I'm saying that people would flock to a cafe where the whole menu promoted medical benefit,

6] In order to offer some kind of standard and offer different applications for each grade

a] The first major cut back of a live standing crop
- This consists of leaf, and fan leaves, - They can all be lumped together as what is gathered before final mannicuring.of the bud and
- brachs & pistols, which are the fine hairs that 1st drop off the branches,
[when you're still handing big branches for final trimming] - this product is very consistent in THC @ 5%, and is really low in chlorophyll [green mass]
-------- It has all kinds of unique properties, so it really is a grade by itself.
- Once processed into Delta 11-THC carboxy it is saline soluble; this powdered /sifted leaf will transfer to flour by simply pre sifting it in. Then this flour can be used for pancakes, waffle cones, cookies, muffins, noodles, tortilla shells, etc.. [with consistent medical and psychoactive results]
- The brachs and pistils are ideal for making vegetable oil extractions,
[due to low green mass] and/or you can use it as a low green mass, high fiber alternative flour


b] This is the immediate trim from final manicured bud:
This trim as a rule is frostier than the 1st cut
- But the real reason for it being a separate grade is that it's gathered separately at final trimming and we can make sure that there is inevitably bud particulate in this trim, which definitely makes it a higher grade.
- Once processed into Delta 11-THC carboxy it is now powdered and sifted then folded into any fat like butter, mayonnaise, high fat yogurt, sour cream, cream cheese, peanut butter etc

- Most people are aware of making cookies, and baked goods, with cannabis butter but
- We can offer our cannabis blended into mayonnaise, now you can make great sandwiches, hors d'oeuvres, Just be creative [for example] use the mayo for tuna or potato salad or to make dips, and hors-d'oeuvres
- Our high fat yogurt is ideal for making fruit smoothies, and truly delicious straight up, and in fact everything made with Delta 11-THC-carboxy tastes better, [it adds a 'spice' that is primeval]
- NB - You can make any thing made with our flour stronger, by just using both our tub products as the wet ingredient with our dry flour, in one recipe, and this can only make it stronger.

NOW: THE BASIC RECIPE FOR MAKING
DELTA 11-THC-CARBOXY FROM CANNABIS

1st - You need to go to the store and buy plastic Oven Bags - The ones you cook a turkey [or pork chop] in... [I know it's plastic but they are food-safe and heat-safe grade plastic]

2nd - Really important: the cannabis must be really dry -
[you really can't take all the moisture out]

- But, This is important, because you're going to bake this cannabis at 280 degrees Fahrenheit while inside this closed oven bag, [and that's well above the boiling point of water], and there's no where for the water to go, once you start the process, now this 'steam' can screw up the process of fully carbonizing all of the cannabis' oily cell structure, because it's wet
[in layman terms: steam can /will affect the ability to 'toast' the cannabis that's inside the bag]
Full toasting will generate 95% conversion of the THC [and other canabinoids] into being fully carboxified cannabis, which is fully digestible, [even for people with really bad digestive systems]
FOOTNOTE
- If there is too much moisture in the bag you will have some of it be THC-nor-carboxy cannabis, which is also very good, it's just a blend of the 2, which is still far better than the old way
- The old way of making green cannabis butter is by boiling the mass of leaf in buttery water and draining off the residue and chilling it, where you skim the butter that floats to the top.
- This process will just produce delta 11-THC nor-carboxy [not-toasted] cannabis, but the fully toasted cannabis really is a superior and more wholesome new experience and you obviously get all of what's in the cannabis because you're not throwing the mass of wet leaf with my process

3rd - Pre-heat a regular oven @ 275 degrees Farenheit. and throw the bag of cannabis inside the center of the oven for about 30 minutes. Now, I say about 30 minutes, because all you really need to do is assure that the heat of the contents in the bag gets to about 270-280 *
, [and this toasting takes about a half hour for a 1/2 to 1 pound - 20 minutes for 2-4 ounces]
after that it's a matter of taste. - You literally can get light medium and dark roast grade cannabis and each variation has very similar flavor, but unique subtle differences in taste [just like coffee],
FOOTNOTE:
- I prefer to use loose, lightly-crunched leaf in the bag, because this texture allows for a good heat and air distribution inside the bag. - In order for the leaf to carbonize, it needs to be exposed to some dry air and that's easier to do with loose leaf, than powdered leaf.
- Now what happens inside the bag is that the cannabis goes above the smoldering point of cannabis and yet is below the flash burning point of 325 degrees [or so] [therefore sterilizing it]:
- The herb wants to smoke but it can't because there is very little air in the bag, so it activates the cannabinoids to be in a state where it is 'as if smoked' but hasn't released any of its spirits..
- NOTE: Baking it too long, or baking it over 325 degrees makes it's usable and edible but not palatable, due to the presence of some burnt /charred green matter in the end product.

4th - After a half hour [or so], take the bag out of the oven with oven mitts, - Shake it up for a few seconds so that all the cannabis has had a little treat of the little air there is in the bag
- [in order to assure toasting], and then immediately throw the bag in the freezer" and leave it there till it's frozen, which takes about 4-5 hours - [this leaf is now turned into carbon crystals].
FOOTNOTE:
From experience. Don't take the cannabis out of the bag, because the bag helps contain the super strong od our of this baked cannabis. that is released the moment you start crushing it
- Start by beating it down from being loose leaf into small particles by squashing it repeatedly,
- Then rolling pin it, into a finer powder, than take it out of the bag and sift it, immediately.
- the best sifters have 'the old jack in the box' type handle - the new 'handle crank' ones with spinning parts inside are too flimsy for the course and abrasive nature of the cannabis fiber
NOTE: This powdered cannabis will be a lot denser than regular cannabis. An ounce of bud is about 3-4-fingers in a plastic sandwich bag and this powder will be 1 finger, that's because the cell wall of the cell has been shattered and all of the cannabinoids that where once locked inside this cell are now available, which makes this DELTA 11-THC-carboxy a lot more potent
- In fact the whole molecular structure of the cannabis has changed [Click here for proof]

4th - This sifting process is separating the cannabis and creates 2 grades NAMELY
- What is too course and lumpy to go thru the screen, which has all kinds of good uses, and
- What falls thru the sifter, which is really fine enough to just blend into any fat like butter, or yogurt or mayonnaise, peanut butter, or any vegetable oil or shortening or nut paste
From experience: Don't use electric chopping tools to grind up the leaf; they chop it way to fine, and you lose too much THC in vapour dust that is not retrievable. It's like comparing stone ground flour to conventional flour: it's not the same

From experience,
This powder is very aromatic, and it's an indication that it really is losing a lot of it's cannabinoids from the moment you start crushing it. The sooner you get this powder into a fat the better, because as soon as it is locked in the fat, it no longer is losing THC to the air.
- from the moment you lock it into a fat. it is good for as long as the fat you put it in is good for
In other words there is no loss of THC at all after you lock it in any fat, but the fat has a shelf-life
- for example: if you lock the cannabis in butter, the butter is good for 6-7 months [if frozen]
it's irrelevant that the cannabis is good for years, it's the shelf life of the butter that counts...
- if you put this powdered cannabis in yogurt then the yogurt still has a shelf life of one month

5th Consideration: Dose control:
From experience, if you use quality close trimmings, you can use 1 ounce of sifted powder, and blend this with one pound of butter; now you can bake 48-50 really good cookies with this butter
- Shortbread cookies can easily use this much butter; if you make sugar cookies, or low butter recipes with this butter then you can easily make 100 good size cookies with the same butter
- I offer a red dose butter that has 1 ounce of premium trim per pound of butter, and that works out to be about 1-1/2 grams per dose. Most people would call a really powerful dose
- Most people should start with half this much and eat the rest of the cookie across the day .

Ps: - The butterfat in 1 pound of butter can easily absorb 2 ounces of powdered cannabis, BUT
- Because of the lower butterfat in yogurt, you need 96 oz's [6 lb] of yogurt to properly absorb 1 ounces of powder, [but then that's not a problem because it means it's diluted to a point where you can measure 2-fluid ounce portions of yogurt and know it's the same dose as 1 cookie]

From experience: Low dose baked goods are far more popular and promo table than those
- killer kick your ass dose cookies, which really only attract the young and restless.
the young and restless simply need to eat 2 or 3 cookies and they will be baked for the day.

WARNING: Eating too much baked goods can /will give you experiences that are comparable to LSD or mushrooms and deliver a psychedelic experiences that most people find too intense...
- This is called FIRST PASS EFFECT, and it's not the cannabis per say that is wiping you out;
it's your own body producing powerful hallucinogens that were sent to 'attack' the overdose of cannabis that your liver was being subjected too. The experience is unique and never fatal,
- If this happens, and you're not ready for it. Just go to bed, close your eyes and dream,
- and you'll sleep a really deep sleep with pleasant dreams for at least 12 hours

FIRST PASS EFFECT is actually incredibly healthy event for your liver.
- Medicine proves that your liver functions 'differently' for at least 6 months after this event
- For hepatitis C victims this is like giving your liver a re-birth jolt of powerful healing medicine
- All kinds of medical reports say it radically changes a lot of your metabolism, and
- None of them say it changes anything negatively,
- Because, in fact, this 'first pass effect' really does change your immune system.
- The affect of this event is to jolt your body's immune system to be more responsive to what your body needs after that

Science has known about this effect for [what my research can find] about 30 years, and it really is the smoking gun to prove that cannabis is medicine, because by definition anything that produces a 'first pass effect' is recognised in medicine as being powerful medicine [period].
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I hope some of you out well give this a shot and report back with their results, and maybe someone can try to making a tincture using this method. good luck

happy smoke, stay safe

website is " increationwetrust.org"

I guess this could work..seems kinda wasteful though.. but for my cooking I try to keep as little plant matter as possible from getting into my food.

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This is phenominal.. so basically we can extract goodness from the leaves etc? can we use stems? Why arent you people excited.. jesus! +rep for author.

Just so you know postop... i went through this process yesterday with some leaves.. havent tested yet though.. praying to something that it will

i'm trying it as i type. I'm decarboxylating the herb then i'm adding it to lemon extract and making green dragon. i'll let you know if it works.

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what is green dragon?? I have followed this recipe using foalage or however you spell it from the plant.. aka leaves.. it does give a nice body stoned effect.. but i think it would be much better if made from actual bud. I'm waiting in angst to see how your green dragon turns out

i looked up green dragon btw.. sounds awesome

. . . . .it worked.





okay so i decarboxylated my 4 grams of herb. then i smashed it up (not ground) and put it in a washed spaghetti jar filled with 2 fliud ounces of PURE lemon extract 86% or 172proof. i used a candy thermometer to regulate the 165F temp. I boiled the alcohol a few times being a stoner but found that, for me, medium low produced a 165F temp. BUT YOU NEED A THERMOMETER TO CHECK, do not eye it. a consistent 165F for 20 minutes. I brewed it for an hour i think. The result was a browninsh looking liquid that i strained through a cheesecloth. I waited a few minutes and pourd the fininshed tincture back into the lemon extract bottle and immediately put 1ml under my tongue. . . . .it burnt like hell. Period. It is gonna burn. . . .



. . . .now depending on the THC content of your herb, that will result in the speedyness of the affects of the thc. . .true that you won't feel the heady affects of the tincture for few minutes, and will continue to feel it for a while, but the moment you put the tincture under your tongue your body recieves the THC.

. . . .it works of course. If you put more grams of herb to the tincture then you can increase the concentration.

and in my limited experience with decarboxylated herb the tincture as well as the oil i made produce an "up" stone (sativa like) that has little comedown. but my herb that i have is a indica dominant. (all my researched told me that the stone would be up and clear but i doubted)


. . . .if you want you can make your tincture stronger. decarboxylate another few grams of herb and add it to the already prepared tincture to concentrate the batch. or you can reduce your tincture by way of heat to concentrate it.




. . . .any questions?

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Well happy to see some people gave it a shot and posted their results. One question for OH Really, how long did you leave it in the oven before you took it out. How long did the stone last, and how strong was it.

Thanks