The "Everything About Hash" thread

Hey guys, I didn't know where to put this thread and put it here and in "hallucinatory substances" too. Actually I was starting it to hopefully get a new section put in on the site for concentrates: the different kinds, how to make them, and the different ways of using them etc. For now I guess this thread will have to do. For anyone who doesn't know what I mean when I say concentrates here are a few: Kief, Hash, Hashish, Oil, Dryed Oil, Honeybud, Earwax, Tincture, etc. So, everyone feel free to post on anything I mentioned above or if you have something else that has to do with making or consuming concentrates. I should have made the title the "Everything About Concentrates" thread.


PS: Please don't post on anything other than stuff on concentrates, the different kinds, how to make them, and the different ways of using them etc. Please no stories about how you got so fucked up that couldn't remember where you were, that's fun an all, just not what this thread is for, try and keep it educational. Also please no arguing and waisting thread space thank you.

There are a few ways to make or get kief, each of which are pretty simple.

Kief can be collected by brushing dry bud with some sort of soft to medium tipped brush. The trichomes fall from the bud and can be seen as a gold powder, which can be collected on a plate or in a bowl.



Another method of obtaining the trichomes is to rub the bud against a fine silk screen. This method is evidently called "screening". Growers sometimes do it after a harvest by putting all their bud on a screen to dry/ collect kief when you go to move around the buds. Trichomes may be inadvertently combined with small pieces of plant matter breaking off from the bud, reducing relative potency per weight.

Buds can also be stored in a container with a fine screen at the bottom. These containers are called kief-boxes or kief-catchers. Over time the agitation of storing and removing buds in this box will cause kief to accumulate in a compartment beneath the screen. Many grinders are also fitted with kief screens, which have the same purpose.





Kief powder can be compressed into a solid form too, which is sometimes referred to as Hashish.

There are a lot of ways to make hash, but there is always one underlying factor and that is quantity vs quality. You will have to decide when you are making your hash what you want: more potent but less quantity, more quantity but less potent. This choice will depend on one thing, the size of holes in the screen you choose. The holes should be between 120-180 microns, a typical silk screen is somewhere in there. The bigger the holes the more you will get but the less potent it will be, compared to choosing smaller holes and getting less of more potent shake. The quality of the trim or buds that you use to make it will also help determine the potency.

After the bud is screened and you have your kief you get a cellophane bage and put it all in. Compact it into a nice brick or flat piece, you don't need to compact it that much, just enough so that it holds together. Move it to the bottom of the bag and take a needle and poke a few holes near the top of the bag, about an inch apart each. Next take a few newspaper pages and dampen them down, dont saturate or break them, just dampen them so that they arn't dry. Then place the newspaper over the cellophane bag, take an iron set to low heat and press down on the paper with medium pressure for about 15 seconds. Then flip the cellophane bag over and repeat it with another piece of newspaper. Only do this once or twice per side. After this you should have a nice block of hash.

Another way:

To press you'll need heavy plastic wrap, cardboard, newspaper, a frying pan, a heavy rolling pin and a tile or marble surface for rolling.

Cut the cardboard to the size you would like your finished bar to be. Make a bag around the cardboard, then remove cardboard. Fill the bag with dry trichomes, seal and wrap in several layers of wet newspaper. Place bundle in frying pan on very low setting. Turn your bar often and unwrap to check if all the trichomes are melted. Don't let the newspapers dry out or catch on fire!

Once melted, remove from frying pan, leave wrapped in newspaper, and transfer to the rolling surface. Using the rolling pin, press and roll from the center out. Continue doing this all the way around your bar for 30 to 45 minutes.

Unwrap newspaper and allow to cool in freezer for at least one hour. Then unwrap from your plastic. You now have some awesome hash!



Ice Hash is another form of hash made by using the concept that the trichomes of marijuana fall of the buds when subject to temperatures below 35-40 degrees F. Often called bubble hash, you can buy these things called bubble bags and they are great for making ice hash. Basically you mix in all of your trim or buds into ice water in a big bucket, 5 gallon buckets are probably the easiest, and then blend it for 25-30 minutes. After that you strain the water and everything in the bucket through a strainer at first to get out all the big chunks of plant material. After that, strain it again through a mesh filter to get the rest of the plant material out. Then finally strain it again through a fine silk screen 120 to 180 microns. After you strain it a few times through the silk screen you can scrape everything on the screen to the middle and put it in the sun to dry. Afterwards you should have something like the picture below.

well, if we're allowed to ask questions then does anyone know how to make and what are the best tinctures for honey oil?

Originally Posted by bugsrnme

well, if we're allowed to ask questions then does anyone know how to make and what are the best tinctures for honey oil?

You plan on turning the tincture into an oil? They are relatively the same thing, tincture still has a little alcohol in it, and oil has dryed to the point where all or most of the alcohol has evaporated. If you were to turn a tincture into an oil then the better the tincture the better the oil, but the more alcohol there is in the tincture the longer you would have to wait for it to evaporate. Alcohol takes a long time to evaporate, depending on the quantity, anywhere from 24 hours to a few days. I have never personally heard of this, but I know for a fact that tincture and most oil's are alcohol extracts so they are relatively one in the same. The only other oil you can make is butane extracted or glycerin/cooking oil and there are no tinctures that are butane extracted.

Great thread.+rep

So out of curiosity what method of making hash makes the most potent hash? How potent is it? Lastly, about what potency (%thc) is Ice hash. I'm wondering because I'm planning on making ice hash with some trimmings and I was curious as to how much potency I could be achieving. Thanks

180 to 220 micron screens are best for your work product unless you are into making weaker hash with a lot of vegetative matter. 25 to 100 microns produces the purest hash. Kief can be made into pressed hash but still contains a good amount of veg matter. The frying pan and cellophane works good but use a wine bottle filled with hot water to roll out your hash block. You can also work your hash with your hands and fingers and a little pressure--It's ready when it turns dark brown or black--A little tip that works great is when you get to the brown/black part of pressing/rolling is dip your fingers in rubbing alcohol and give your hash a quick rub/smoothing--it will give it a glossy finish. If you are making bubble hash put it in a food dehydrator for 6 hours to dry. You can make a good tincture by using pure 100% food grade glycerin and hash. To test for purity hash should burn to a pure white/silver ash.

well thanks to all of you for this info.....i was way off i guess. i thought the purpose of the tincture was to make the oil workable and slightly liquified. you know how oil gets after being stored....kinda dries,hardens and gets unmanagable. so you put in the alcohol or whatever to make it soupy for lack of a better word. then you put it on whatever your smoin it in/out of, let the slovent dry then tadaa........so this is all wrong?

Originally Posted by caderader

So out of curiosity what method of making hash makes the most potent hash? How potent is it? Lastly, about what potency (%thc) is Ice hash. I'm wondering because I'm planning on making ice hash with some trimmings and I was curious as to how much potency I could be achieving. Thanks

Ice hash usually turns out the best in terms of purity and potency. The reason is because for the most part when you use the bubble bags there are 4 or 5 layers you are straining it through so you end up get almost all of the plant material strained out resulting in really pure hash. Another reason that ice hash ends up turning out so good is because other forms of making hash use heat to form the hash brick and unfortunately heat destroys THC, while cold preserves it, so therfore ice hash naturally contains more preserved THC than traditional hash.

Originally Posted by bugsrnme

well thanks to all of you for this info.....i was way off i guess. i thought the purpose of the tincture was to make the oil workable and slightly liquified. you know how oil gets after being stored....kinda dries,hardens and gets unmanagable. so you put in the alcohol or whatever to make it soupy for lack of a better word. then you put it on whatever your smoin it in/out of, let the slovent dry then tadaa........so this is all wrong?

Just make sure that firstly your tincture is pure and only has alcohol and extract, a lot of the time people add honey and sugar and all kinds of stuff to make the tincture sweeter in which case you wouldn't be able to smoke it. If you do plan on smoking it tho, you would probably want to spread it out all on a piece of glass and let it sun cure, it usally gives the best results. You just want to make sure that all of the alcohol is evaporated out of it before anything.