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    Alrighty fellas, as the title says, I need a little advice with making some BHO. I attempted to make some the other day and succeeded but didnt yield as much product as I expected/ desired. I used roughly 18 grams of ground up bud along with 6 grams of ground stems. All loosly placed into a 3/4 inch, 1 foot long pvc pipe. I also made sure to use 5x refined butane. I expected at least 2-3 grams of BHO but ended with 1.10 grams even after running a can and a half of butane through it (5.8 oz cans). It still hits and smokes great... Im just looking for advice/ constructive criticism... Any help/ advice will be well appreciated!!!

    Happy Smoking and Thank You for your time

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    pack it and do it slow

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    so simply just packing the ground bud and I will get more yield?

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    how did you purge it? dont use stems they take up a lot of space and have almost no thc content, dont grind it up just break it up and pack it decently tightly but not too tightly, also get a glass extraction tube or a stainless steel turkey baster cause pvc sucks, make sure ur using 2 unbleached coffee filter, i wouldnt use a 5x go with 7x for sure go get urself some vector, yield is gonna be very dependant on product, certain strains even though they are very dank will yield less than other strain that have less thc content, its just the way it is, you want your product to be cured out nicely for at least a few weeks to preserve the smell, but keep it a little more moist than youd like to smoke it at the time of extraction, and remember ALWAYS blast outdoors and wait for all liquid butane to be gone to take it inside, the purge is also vital in your final product, no matter what you put in if you try and steam purge a large amount of BHO on high for a short period of time, or on low for a long period of time, it will still not be able to get all the impurities it can out and it will turn to a crystaline and bond with residuals in butane, without a vac i would recommend winterizing your bho with everclear. Good luck.

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    alrighty im liking the input. for my final product I whipped the bho over a pot of boiling water (of course not on the stove but outside ha). and the herb im using... not my choice but the only thing available in high quantities in my area are pound bricks since im somewhat near mexico. very cheap and easily accessible... but breaking it up takes forever since its compressed. I was thinking of fluffing the bud instead of grinding it and then trying to run an oz through for some bho... I need more info on how to do it honestly. iv got all the equipment and items needed for making the bho... just needing someone to point me in the right direction. thank you for your input fellas

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    I would suggest losing the PVC tube, as it bleeds plastisizers into the butane.

    You might consider stuffing a wadded up coffee filter in your injection end, to diffuse the butane before it hits the plant material, to prevent channeling.

    We typically yield just over 20% from prime bud. You might examine the spent material and look for intact trichome heads, to see if you got what was available. Don't worry about the shafts and hairs, they are always left behind.

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    once again USE BETTER STARTING MATERIAL WTF r u using stems for seriously thought only old hippies believe stems were suitable for exract
    u cant make chicken shit into chicken salad the constant post of how do i increase yield or how do i get better quality
    if u use a bunch of shitty paisa dirt weed u will have some low grade erl if u use high grade trimmings or flowers u will have the nice stuff that is the main issue i think we have here i think some ppls definition of quality is WAY off from what is actually needed for high grade extracts. please dont take this personal it is just my observation. i have numerous friends that i have rejected thr free bags of trimming bcuz they mixed all the shit in with the close trim and it is basically a big bag of compost

    for fucks sake ppl search before posting

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    Quote Originally Posted by TK Smoke View Post
    Alrighty fellas, as the title says, I need a little advice with making some BHO. I attempted to make some the other day and succeeded but didnt yield as much product as I expected/ desired. I used roughly 18 grams of ground up bud along with 6 grams of ground stems. All loosly placed into a 3/4 inch, 1 foot long pvc pipe. I also made sure to use 5x refined butane. I expected at least 2-3 grams of BHO but ended with 1.10 grams even after running a can and a half of butane through it (5.8 oz cans). It still hits and smokes great... Im just looking for advice/ constructive criticism... Any help/ advice will be well appreciated!!!

    Happy Smoking and Thank You for your time
    welcome to the club! this sounds just like my first time... keep practicing, keep searching for answers, you'll get to where you want to be in enough time, just be safe! BUDies hit some key points. i may say this though, i get great results with 5x refined butane, and also.. i like to use more than 2 layers of coffee filters.. i use 8+ (2 filters folded enough times to give me 8 layers)

    other than that. good trim makes good oil, if you wouldnt roll it in your j, try not to put it in your tube.. i also think boiling water hot bath is a bit too much... butane evaps at a muchhhhhhhhhhhhhhh lower temp.. id start off with lower temps, while working my way up, not opposite..

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    its a balance between quality and quantity, just like with most hash production.

    if you grind your herb and pack it tighter you will get better yields, the finer you grind it and tighter you pack it the more you will yield.

    how fine you grind it is the biggest factor in material to product ratio i have found, well other then initial material quality, but the finer you grind it the lower the quality, darker hashier tasting oil.

    use a coffee grinder to make weed powder for maximum yields, a herb grinder for mid, and just chop it up a bit with some scissors if you just want quality.

    just my 2 cents.....


    PS: I only rinse trim, i smoke my bud.
    Last edited by DonPepe; 02-06-2013 at 12:14 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by biglungs View Post
    once again USE BETTER STARTING MATERIAL WTF r u using stems for seriously thought only old hippies believe stems were suitable for exract
    u cant make chicken shit into chicken salad the constant post of how do i increase yield or how do i get better quality
    if u use a bunch of shitty paisa dirt weed u will have some low grade erl if u use high grade trimmings or flowers u will have the nice stuff that is the main issue i think we have here i think some ppls definition of quality is WAY off from what is actually needed for high grade extracts. please dont take this personal it is just my observation. i have numerous friends that i have rejected thr free bags of trimming bcuz they mixed all the shit in with the close trim and it is basically a big bag of compost

    for fucks sake ppl search before posting
    thank you for the input. all input helps and im not easily offended, just trying to learn more. iv done well over 50 hours of reading on this site just never bothered to post because I didnt need help with anything nor did I have any input that others didnt already pout.

    honestly, I dont believe its the product that im using because believe it or not, im pretty much set after smoking a bowl of it. its not completely shit weed by the way. and I use stems as well because well in my mind... why waste it? but iv heard from multiple "why are you using stems?" so of course that will stop so i can recieve more yield. the bho that I made WAS a nice golden color... definately did the job with the dabs!

    so it looks like im needing a new extraction tube... better material (wich cant happen)... maybe better butane (7x instead of 5x)... possibly running more butane through the extraction process...
    biglungs... the stems do yield thc. I smoke for my pain as I was t-boned by a truck while riding my crotch rocket and can no longer walk. so when it gets down to it and you have nothing else to smoke, those stems looked pretty gross but still worked when smoked. (in case of emergency haha!!!)

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