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    Is anyone familiar with the process of making solvent-free hash oil(water is a solvent too)? It's not impossible, it can be done, just because you don't know how or haven't heard of it doesn't mean it's not possible. A local dispensary has it and it is phenomenal. They say the vendor who makes it doesn't want his secret getting out, so I've taken it upon myself to find out. Anyone have anything?

    HEY GUYS! Did some more research and asked the guy at the dispensary a bunch of questions and he answered what he could(yes or no answers). So I got the basic idea of how this works...The guy who makes it uses nitrogen, but not as a solvent, just to achieve a specific cold temperature, then they use some type of high frequency to make the trichome heads fall off of the bud. That's all I know so far...WHERE ARE MY CHEMICAL ENGINEERS AT?!
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    Quote Originally Posted by just a medicator View Post
    Is anyone familiar with the process of making solvent-free hash oil(water is a solvent too)? It's not impossible, it can be done, just because you don't know how or haven't heard of it doesn't mean it's not possible. A local dispensary has it and it is phenomenal. They say the vendor who makes it doesn't want his secret getting out, so I've taken it upon myself to find out. Anyone have anything?
    There's web references dating back to October of 2010.. where they were cookin' down trichomes with a crock pot.. lol.. (No idea if this works at all) Personally, if you have the budget.. use ScCO2 - keep in mind that is a very expensive technique (compared to others) unless you're loaded.

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    Interesting keep us updated!

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    IMG_20130113_153418.jpgCosub2 and subcritical water are the best solvents to use. Even if high pressure air was used, it would still require a co-solvent to dissolve the solids into oils. I really would consider this blown outa preportion. I mean come on most people on these threads think bho is the biz when its really only a cheap thrill. Its the closest thing to a co2 extraction but still so hella far away. It would never progress and gain the technological advances to ever really give co2 a run for its money. Co2 only cost more for the vessels. The solvent themselves are a lot cheaper. I spend $1.30 a lbs for solid co2 and about 0.75cents per lbs of liquid.

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    I've seen a thread regarding vaporizing the oil using heat and then condensing it back to an oil using a chilled surface.

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    start by keifing out your material, then grade it out, you have to seperate the full melt trichomes out, after that take all your full melt trichs and add some distilled water to your full melt trichs in a pyrex at 145 degrees, it takes a while but once they are warmed up the water can easily be poured off and the warmed trichs will coalesce with a fork or dabber

    BTW, THIS IS ALSO THE FUTURE OF WAX AND OIL.
    Bho and wax making through blowing butane is illegal in many states and will only become more extinct as the years go forward.

    I guarantee it will be outlawed totally here in colorado when they finish the new rules and release them later this year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by just a medicator View Post
    Is anyone familiar with the process of making solvent-free hash oil(water is a solvent too)? It's not impossible, it can be done, just because you don't know how or haven't heard of it doesn't mean it's not possible. A local dispensary has it and it is phenomenal. They say the vendor who makes it doesn't want his secret getting out, so I've taken it upon myself to find out. Anyone have anything?
    futhermore i am sick and fucking tired of these self righteous deuchebags that have these "secrets" and "clones" they dont want to share with anyone. it is my mission in life to completely demystify this plant and all of the dumb lies and bullshit secrets out there, meanwhile punking all of these pothead martyrs that have had it soooo bad, lmfao. all my knowledge checks out with experience and its free, i am not trying to get rich or to make a name for myself, i am trying to make enough good medicine for sick fucking planet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by igothydrotoneverywhere View Post
    start by keifing out your material, then grade it out, you have to seperate the full melt trichomes out, after that take all your full melt trichs and add some distilled water to your full melt trichs in a pyrex at 145 degrees, it takes a while but once they are warmed up the water can easily be poured off and the warmed trichs will coalesce with a fork or dabber

    BTW, THIS IS ALSO THE FUTURE OF WAX AND OIL.
    Bho and wax making through blowing butane is illegal in many states and will only become more extinct as the years go forward.

    I guarantee it will be outlawed totally here in colorado when they finish the new rules and release them later this year.
    Village idiots blowing themselves up, most assuredly will result in more widespread legislation proscribing butane extraction, though butane extraction using a Terpenator is no more unsafe than refrigeration systems using R-600 refrigerant.

    Your process looks interesting, but it doesn't look like it will produce the absolute oils needed for oral and topical application, which is the lions share of the oil that we supply to patients. My guess is that recirculating butane systems may eventually get some slack, but that SCFE CO2 will most likely become the standard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fadedawg View Post
    Village idiots blowing themselves up, most assuredly will result in more widespread legislation proscribing butane extraction, though butane extraction using a Terpenator is no more unsafe than refrigeration systems using R-600 refrigerant.

    Your process looks interesting, but it doesn't look like it will produce the absolute oils needed for oral and topical application, which is the lions share of the oil that we supply to patients. My guess is that recirculating butane systems may eventually get some slack, but that SCFE CO2 will most likely become the standard.
    i agree, and thats what ive heard too, about the co2, but i think the outlawing of butane will have more to do with just blowing a bunch of hydrocarbons into the atmosphere. the EPA wont allow it.

    is the terpenator the same thing as a tamisium extractor?

    what exactly is an absolute oil?
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    I do believe an absolute oil has either been extracted w absolute alcohol or an end process I know as winterization. It really helps the concrete extract lose more tane, it freshens up the extract too. So once diluted in absolute in 3:1-1:1 ratio the extract is then cold filtered after been stable @ -50C for 48hrs. You guys really want to pop shots, go to school and get an education. I make scfe easy. If you can't afford the $300 tutorial, then you really have no business getting involved w co2 extractions. So if you would just give away something that is of value that can change your life and the life of others, then that my friend is an idiot w no self preservation. I spent my own fuckin money researching this field and you cats act like if I owe you this info. Demand this info from Eden and watch them laugh their ass' off @ your requests. $300 is cheap and if its to much for you now, keep saving cuz the cost is going to increase in the near future.

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