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    Ok. So here's the deal. I've been successful at making budder. But I'm having a problem refining it into a waxy consistency. After vacuum purging it has turned into what I can only describe as styrofoam ice cream.

    The only thing I've been able to do to make it not do this is put it in a toaster oven on low heat for 2-3 minutes and then re-purge it. At this point it turns into something that resembled petrified stale honey.

    So wtf? What am I doing wrong. Halp a noob out.

    Petrified stale honey:



    styrofoam icecream:
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    Lol @ styrofoam icecream...i thought it kinda resembles pork rinds too sometimes..depends on how hard it is...i think a few things..

    1-need to make sure your stuff is molten or as close as possible when vacuuming..
    Mine does this too, but when it cools down to much or fast it can get stuck like that...when this happens, what i do is put it back on some heat or hot water bath,,,then itll melt back down, then vac again...keep doing this til it doesnt puff up anymore...then it will be like a "sap"

    the petrified honey is almost to the end i believe...
    Now once you have this "sap" it should be basically transparent and sappy....now you take this and add some heat from below and start whipping...it will slowly start to turn from clear to more gold then it will start to go opaque..then it will be more buddery...you can continue stirring until it is a fully whipped budder, but still soft to touch...
    No to get it from budder to wax it needs to be dried out...there are several ways you can do this...
    Easiest is prob just leaving in a pile or dish over night...it will harden up sometimes not much sometimes completely solid, and many in bewtween..this is strain dependant and also depends on how long you whipped and heated it and if you decarbed it or not..

    Another easy way would be after you get the budder, take your glass dish, spread the budder even and thin, then put it on a heating pad of some kind for a while til it all dries..then scrape it up..walla you have flake wax..compress it and walla you got wax ball..
    Now this is general guidelines..many strains vary on many things, and the age of the flowers has a lot to do as well...
    I also really only use top notch or at least decent flowers, so im not sure, but im pretty confident this is accurate for trim as well...i have made trim wax, just been a while..

    Hope this helps, ask any questions you like..
    Heres some of my flake wax and some other wax swim made using same process just explained..

    The bowl is after blow but pre whip..
    The flake wax would be after scrape...then the chunk of wax would be after pressing it into a ball...the budder is what it would stay like if you put it into a container and dont allow it to dry out totally...it will stay like budder in a container...that state is after vaccing and adding some heat and whipping..

    SEE THE BOWL WOULDVE HAD THE ICECREAM PUFF WHEN IT FIRST WENT INTO THE VAC CHAMBER, THEN IT PUFFED UP ALL CRAZY AND I POPPED IT BACK INTO A HOT WATER BATH...THEN VACUUM AGAIN, THEN WHEN I PULLED IT OUT IT WOULDVE BEEN MORE LIKE PETRIFIED HONEY..ALMOST DONE, REWARM IN HOT WATER, THEN REVACUUM...NOW WHEN DONE IT SHOULD RESEMBLE SAP LIKE THE PIC..
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    I tried what you said and it basically just turned into an opaque shatter. Doesn't seem like this will go to wax. It seems to want to be in a more crystal form.

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    Every strain makes a differen consistency wax. U think that could be why?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Budologist420 View Post
    Every strain makes a differen consistency wax. U think that could be why?
    No. But this is blue dream. I've seen tons of blue dream wax.
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    ZOMGWTF!!!! I think it worked! I have achieved wax!

    This is the same stuff from the dish of "petrified stale honey"



    After nearly giving up and deciding I'm never going to achieve that desirable texture, I stuck it back in the toaster oven for ~4-5 minutes. When I took it out, I stuck my whipping tool in it and pushed it around to check the consistency and it's legit wax! Thx for your halp guise! It now has the exact texture as the shit in the dispensary that sells for $60 a gram!
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    Quote Originally Posted by scorche224 View Post
    you sir, are a god!!!!!!!!!!!!
    I wasn't last night, but today I am in fact a god!

    A golden god!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Miyagi View Post
    Lol @ styrofoam icecream...i thought it kinda resembles pork rinds too sometimes..depends on how hard it is...i think a few things..

    1-need to make sure your stuff is molten or as close as possible when vacuuming..
    Mine does this too, but when it cools down to much or fast it can get stuck like that...when this happens, what i do is put it back on some heat or hot water bath,,,then itll melt back down, then vac again...keep doing this til it doesnt puff up anymore...then it will be like a "sap"

    the petrified honey is almost to the end i believe...
    Now once you have this "sap" it should be basically transparent and sappy....now you take this and add some heat from below and start whipping...it will slowly start to turn from clear to more gold then it will start to go opaque..then it will be more buddery...you can continue stirring until it is a fully whipped budder, but still soft to touch...
    No to get it from budder to wax it needs to be dried out...there are several ways you can do this...
    Easiest is prob just leaving in a pile or dish over night...it will harden up sometimes not much sometimes completely solid, and many in bewtween..this is strain dependant and also depends on how long you whipped and heated it and if you decarbed it or not..

    Another easy way would be after you get the budder, take your glass dish, spread the budder even and thin, then put it on a heating pad of some kind for a while til it all dries..then scrape it up..walla you have flake wax..compress it and walla you got wax ball..
    Now this is general guidelines..many strains vary on many things, and the age of the flowers has a lot to do as well...
    I also really only use top notch or at least decent flowers, so im not sure, but im pretty confident this is accurate for trim as well...i have made trim wax, just been a while..

    Hope this helps, ask any questions you like..
    Heres some of my flake wax and some other wax swim made using same process just explained..

    The bowl is after blow but pre whip..
    The flake wax would be after scrape...then the chunk of wax would be after pressing it into a ball...the budder is what it would stay like if you put it into a container and dont allow it to dry out totally...it will stay like budder in a container...that state is after vaccing and adding some heat and whipping..

    SEE THE BOWL WOULDVE HAD THE ICECREAM PUFF WHEN IT FIRST WENT INTO THE VAC CHAMBER, THEN IT PUFFED UP ALL CRAZY AND I POPPED IT BACK INTO A HOT WATER BATH...THEN VACUUM AGAIN, THEN WHEN I PULLED IT OUT IT WOULDVE BEEN MORE LIKE PETRIFIED HONEY..ALMOST DONE, REWARM IN HOT WATER, THEN REVACUUM...NOW WHEN DONE IT SHOULD RESEMBLE SAP LIKE THE PIC..
    That all sounded like bullshit to me when I first read it. It contradicted a lot of other info I had read. But it turns out everyone else was wrong and you were right! Ty ty. +rep
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    Also - to the person who deleted their post -

    I agree with you. I too prefer shatter to wax. I like shatter because IMO it holds it's flavor longer and it is easier for me to dab. The wax always falls off my dabber!

    But wax is what is in demand, so wax is what I will make.
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