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    Quote Originally Posted by fisch28 View Post
    I've been seeing these claims lately that only N-butane should be used. How can one tell what type of butane is actually in their can of butane? I can't seem to find any information on the kinds of butane I've been using and not sure where to find what percentage is actually n-butane. Does anybody have a way of finding this information out? And also whether or not it has an added chemical for the smell?

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    Even the best cans of butane (think Vector) are not pure n-butane, I would suggest looking up the MSDS for any butane you are considering. Here is the one for Vector: http://www.vectorkgm.com/catalog/but...r_Gas_MSDS.pdf

    As you'll see, it contains 60% n-butane, 29% iso-butane, and 11% propane. It does not contain any additive like mercaptan to create an odor.

    Pure n-butane is not easy to come by. It comes in a canister, not a can. You'll need to order it from a gas supply company. In addition, by default, the cansiter you get from a gas company is configured to deliver the n-butane as a gas. For extraction, we need our butane in liquid form, so you'd need to have the gas company fit your canister with something called an eductor tube so that gas is released as a liquid.

    If you make it that far, and purchase an eductor fitted canister full of n-butane, then you'll have to figure out how to connect it to an extraction tube

    I suspect that going pure n-butane isn't practical until you up your BHO game to a Tamisium

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    Quote Originally Posted by DreamTime View Post
    Even the best cans of butane (think Vector) are not pure n-butane, I would suggest looking up the MSDS for any butane you are considering. Here is the one for Vector: http://www.vectorkgm.com/catalog/but...r_Gas_MSDS.pdf

    As you'll see, it contains 60% n-butane, 29% iso-butane, and 11% propane. It does not contain any additive like mercaptan to create an odor.

    Pure n-butane is not easy to come by. It comes in a canister, not a can. You'll need to order it from a gas supply company. In addition, by default, the cansiter you get from a gas company is configured to deliver the n-butane as a gas. For extraction, we need our butane in liquid form, so you'd need to have the gas company fit your canister with something called an eductor tube so that gas is released as a liquid.

    If you make it that far, and purchase an eductor fitted canister full of n-butane, then you'll have to figure out how to connect it to an extraction tube

    I suspect that going pure n-butane isn't practical until you up your BHO game to a Tamisium
    great post, thanks for the knowledge

    even with a Tami its not worth the extra money to get the nbutane. i know many with tamis. none run n-butane. cans in a tami for the half ass win i guess
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    Ive been following your methods for some time now..., and you've changed my hash method entirely. Thanks man... I was following bubblemans old method.. but now my wax is fire.

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    Ok thanks for the information. Guess I'll just be sticking to the cans I can find locally. Hopefully this stuff causes no health problems. After checking out your ice wax Matt rize I'm thinking I'm going to have to give it a try.

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    yup yup butanes also nasty. i wrote a thread in the past overnite became hot, and did i piss off butane die hards royally. maybe i will write another as i feel the same way matt does. rize up the bar to co2.yeah yeah!!!
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    n-butane means normal butane. really not that hard to come by. maybe u should look into lpg instead? but imo and expierience iso-butane is what you should be extracting w, not n-butane as that shits dirty. dimethyl propane is way more efficient and thurough than n or iso butane, but the trade off is taste. that nastiness can be treated w activated charcoal column to minimize that, but its inherit. co2 is where its at for oil. the next thing best is far behind as butane extracts. not in the same leagues at all.
    Quote Originally Posted by DreamTime View Post
    Even the best cans of butane (think Vector) are not pure n-butane, I would suggest looking up the MSDS for any butane you are considering. Here is the one for Vector: http://www.vectorkgm.com/catalog/but...r_Gas_MSDS.pdf

    As you'll see, it contains 60% n-butane, 29% iso-butane, and 11% propane. It does not contain any additive like mercaptan to create an odor.

    Pure n-butane is not easy to come by. It comes in a canister, not a can. You'll need to order it from a gas supply company. In addition, by default, the cansiter you get from a gas company is configured to deliver the n-butane as a gas. For extraction, we need our butane in liquid form, so you'd need to have the gas company fit your canister with something called an eductor tube so that gas is released as a liquid.

    If you make it that far, and purchase an eductor fitted canister full of n-butane, then you'll have to figure out how to connect it to an extraction tube

    I suspect that going pure n-butane isn't practical until you up your BHO game to a Tamisium

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    Quote Originally Posted by fisch28 View Post
    Ok thanks for the information. Guess I'll just be sticking to the cans I can find locally. Hopefully this stuff causes no health problems. After checking out your ice wax Matt rize I'm thinking I'm going to have to give it a try.
    Make sure you only use a high quality quintuple refined butane like Vector, and that you completely purge your oil. I see an awful lot of under purged oil that is still obviously full of butane out there. And while I'm not an opponent of BHO, ice water extraction is definitely a less dangerous process.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DreamTime View Post
    Make sure you only use a high quality quintuple refined butane like Vector, and that you completely purge your oil. I see an awful lot of under purged oil that is still obviously full of butane out there. And while I'm not an opponent of BHO, ice water extraction is definitely a less dangerous process.
    truth is you won't have fully purged BHO unless you have a real vac, or over heat it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigcarty24 View Post
    Ive been following your methods for some time now..., and you've changed my hash method entirely. Thanks man... I was following bubblemans old method.. but now my wax is fire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Rize View Post
    truth is you won't have fully purged BHO unless you have a real vac, or over heat it.
    I have seen some beautiful oil that was only oven purged, but I much prefer a combination of low heat and vacuum. That means a good 2 stage pump and a real vacuum chamber.. no mason jars, no mighty vac, no food sealers... those things are dangerous and don't work well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dankillerbs View Post
    I'm more interested in discussing any possible health issues associated with smoking BHO, rather than people's ignorance when it comes to making it.
    I would think that educating people on how to do it correctly would be a priority. I seriously doubt that even the most stupid people would intentionally blow themselves up if they could avoid it. I've seen some pretty fucking stupid guys who successfully cook meth without injury, but thay were taught safety precautions.
    Anything I post here is only intended to help those who are living in a state where doing what we discuss here is legal. If your state doesn't allow the activities discussed here in these forums, please disregard anything I say. (Hey, it works for juries, doesn't it!!!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by DreamTime View Post
    I have seen some beautiful oil that was only oven purged, but I much prefer a combination of low heat and vacuum. That means a good 2 stage pump and a real vacuum chamber.. no mason jars, no mighty vac, no food sealers... those things are dangerous and don't work well.
    for sure. totally agree.

    beautiful over purge, oh yeah of course, terpene rich tho? nope. you can't have your oven purge and your terps too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigcarty24 View Post
    Ive been following your methods for some time now..., and you've changed my hash method entirely. Thanks man... I was following bubblemans old method.. but now my wax is fire.

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