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Old 08-16-2008, 10:17 AM
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Hi Folks, I am trying a first time CFL grow. Got me a clone that I took approx 4-6 weeks ago from a flowering mom. Shes growing really slow, her mama was a slow grower so I haven't been too worried about her in that regard. This is a soil grow, using some store bought dirt and worm casing dirt about 1/2 and 1/2. After she rooted and for a couple of weeks I did have a heat issue but thats under control now. What has been happening is the yellowing of her leaves. I picked the yellow fried ones off only to have it happen again and I dont know why. Her top looks good but it seems to be happening all over now. I looked in the grow faq and couldnt find my/her problem. Any thoughts? She's in a proofer with 5 CFL's. 2-23w/100w equivelent bright white lumen output of 1200, 2-23w/100w equiv. soft white 1600 lumen output, and one 52 w/150w equiv. 2600 lumen output. Any advice is welcome and thanks in advance!
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Old 08-16-2008, 10:21 AM
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Also....do I have enought light? Thanks!
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Old 08-16-2008, 10:27 AM
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Geez Im a space....I forgot to mention that I am considering moving her to where her mama grew up. Right now I have her vegging 24/7. If I move her she will be under a MH light for further vegging, then a HPS for flowering. Not sure Im gonna move her tho. Should I just throw her into flower either way? Again Thanks!
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Old 08-16-2008, 10:28 AM
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you have a bunch of issuse that why you cant find it. i see twisty leaves and the burning tells me your ph is off.

to much worm castings 1/3 mix
they are slow because health and only cfl`s
what is the kelvin on the bulbs
how often do you water and how much
any nutes yet
venting?
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Old 08-16-2008, 10:42 AM
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to much worm castings 1/3 mix
they are slow because health and only cfl`s
what is the kelvin on the bulbs
how often do you water and how much
any nutes yet
venting?

I'll try to answer concisely...
Soil was def. 1/2 and 1/2 How do I fix that?
Mom was slower than the others, took her a full week or so behind to declare sex, we almost yanked her lol. I can move her to a better lighting situation if needed. She is bagseed of indica descent, mom stayed short.

Kelvin ratings on bulbs is 5000k on the bright whites, 2700k on the smaller soft whites, and lo and behold 2700k on the bigger soft white.

No nutes yet, just plain spring water. I water when she's dry, all the way thru and she sucks up what drains. I wait a day and water again.

Venting
Ok this is where I had heat issues. She's in a commercial baking proofer. Super well insulated and initially I had a computer fan blowing in. It was too hot no doubt. Couldnt leave the door open tho, too many kids asking questions about what that light is comming from under the door. Now I have another fan blowing out and its much much better.
Thank you for your swift reply.
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Old 08-16-2008, 10:55 AM
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wow ok.

to start the bulbs are for flowering. you want a high kelvin to veg like 6700 or so and 2700 or so for flowering so that is why your slow growth and the cfl`s are slower.

to late to fix the worm casting thing no big deal though, thats just my mix.
what is a baking proofer, an oven for bread? wow metal?
that is part of the heat issue metal will retain the heat.
measure the inside of the grow erea width x depth x hight = ? cfm
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Old 08-16-2008, 11:16 AM
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Yes a proofer is for baking bread. Metal. Insulated. It's what I got so thats why Im using it. Again, kids around, its a solution. Unless they see light from under the door its a stealthy option for me. Husband says interior dimensions are 36"H X18"W X 28"D. I really think I have the heat issue under control, tho I do not have a temp reading. Its so much cooler with the addition of the 2nd fan. It "feels" right if that makes sense to ya. I'm pretty good with my house plants and such. I will try to get a temp reading for ya tho, but I think that part is good. I really appreciate your assistance.
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Old 08-16-2008, 11:20 AM
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Upon re-reading your question about the proofer It is used to hold bread dough to rise. It has an internal thermostat and fans and I do not have it plugged in for that function lol. The only heat is comming from the lights. I'm kinda stuck with my lights so maybe its time to move her to a more favorable growing space. I was thinking that I might just use the proofer as a cloning box, but it would be cool to see if I could pull this off.
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the cloning idea is better
i understand what the proofer is now. thats why it gets hot, it`s insulated and metal so it holds heat for hours. not good.
3 feet i dont think will allow much room for growth, remember that theyu will double in size when they flower.
important to know the temps and humidity
cfl`s get quite hot
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Unfortunatly I have to go to work in a bit so Im going to have to wait to get the temp, reality is that I do not have a thermometer so thats gonna have to wait. I hear ya on the temp thing. Yeah she holds heat but the 2nd fan made a huge difference. Well I think the decision is made that she's gonna move out lol. Like I said I can move her to another better space. Its just not where I can tend to her daily. My grow pard can tho. Thank you so very very much for your help.
 

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