I see what your saying there FT.. and I must admit I haven't seen a plant reach up that far before... But don't worry to much for now.. it could be genetic, and besides it reaching up like that, it looks in good health....

As for the transplant, I would go for it. It sounds like the other soil you have in hand is better then what it's in now.

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its a tough call if you are sure the soil is the culprit then go for it, I would personally transplant into a beer cup (make sure you put some holes in the bottom for drainange) the small container will allow the roots to develop faster, then transplant into a larger one in c ouple of weeks......but keep in mind a transplant can stress a plant some make sure that is the problem before you stress it further I still recomend the flush before doig anything, when in doubt flush it out.............

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You guys make some excellent points, I'm really not too sure what to do. As bigd said, I don't wanna stress out the lil guy and end up having it die on me like that, that'd kill me. I'm not 100% sure its the soil, but I can't really think of anything else.. I mean other than the soil and obviously genetics the 2 plants are in the exact same conditions getting the same water and everything.

Tomorrow is watering day other than the misting of the cups I do daily, I guess I'll give it another shot of just regular pH'd Distilled Water and see how it goes. If its still acting "up" in 2 - 3 days or getting worse I'll do a transplant. I'm just really worried as its in a 6in pot and the only thing I have to transplant it to is another 6 incher. How would I go about isolating the roots without royally messing shit up ? Work with me guys I might post a pic of HK in the Sick plants forum just to see if anyone has any other ideas that doesn't come to the CFL section.

Thanks,
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That's just it though... HK doesn't look sick... she looks in good health... it's just that she is acting funny.. trying to raise the roof and stuff lol

The main reason for transplanting now is to lower stress, and less to do with her behavior... It's less stressful to transplant her now that she is young then to try to transplant her later when her roots are more establish and risk shock. Like you said.. you have better soil on hand now (less dense and with perlite)... so why not transplant?


Don't let non of this scare you though... even if you were to transplant later, if your gentle and careful, transplanting should have minimal effects on your plant... a little stress won't kill it... Some growers transplant many times before harvest. I just believe transplanting her now from low grade soil to a higher grade soil has future benefits (lush green happy plant) that out way the risks (a day of stress).

If it was the soil... she would have more curling and sagging, with color change in the tips.


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Well, too be 100% sure its not just the soil thats causing problems I decided to just go ahead and transplant HK. She is looking healthy which is the only reason I'm not afraid to try the transplant and kill her. So anyway the method I went about doing this is as follows. Please tell me where I wronged so if I have to do this again I can do it properly.
Ok so here goes,
1) I "squished" the pot around to loosen up the soil and roots of HK old pot.
2) I layed out a plastic bag and basically put HK gentely between my fingers and slowly started to empty out the soil.
3) Turned the pot totally upside down to get the rest of the soil out.
4) Freed up the root ball broke off excess soil

Thats about all i did for the old pot, I should mention before doing that I filled a different pot with my other soil watered it down a bit as its really quite fluffy, dug a lil hole, placed HKs roots in about 1/2 - 3/4 the way down the pot and then slowly filled with soil till she was up and standing sturdy on her own.

Things I noticed while doing this....Looks can be decieving, by that what I mean is, I must have planted HK deeper than originally thought as when I dug her out her stem was as long if not longer than TH's it was just covered more by soil. Anyway I planted her a bit taller than she was before but not much as the stem is weak and not used to much light yet. Anyway enough blabbing, Thanks for the help Wolf and BigD appreciated as always ! Time for 2 pics of HK in her new pot. Then we wait till tomorrow mornings update !!


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Still "raising the roof" lol

Have a good one all,
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Alrighty, so I dunno if this is good.. or just freshly transplanted, time will tell...

This is HK now (well pics were taken 10 min after transplant), then I went out to smoke a joint and now I'm posting, lol... ok so yeah pics..



and another,


Could the "problem" really have been solved in 10 minutes ?!?!? Or is it just droopy after transplant ?.. I'm going with the 2nd but again time will tell, I'm going to keep an eye on her every hr or two till I go to sleep, not touch just watch. I also switched the spots that TH and HK were in, did a lil swap, maybe get some good TH karma all around the box !!

What do you guys think ?!?
-Tdot

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Looking good buddy, I got a question for you, what is the colour temp of your lights, I have been thinking of using daylight around 6500 degress k for the whole process, is this alright? I just got some BC Big Bud seeds from Dutch Passion, I'm thinking of starting within the week. Good to see people in the GTA growing their own.

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Sounds like you did a great job FT... and you are right, she may just be a bit stress... she should bounce back in no time.
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So I might have potentially figured something out. Last night I was watching one of the Seemorebuds dvds Excellent stuff by the way I recommend everyone buy a copy ! Anyway he visits and outdoor garden thats in "extreme" heat. The plants has super thin leaves and because of the heat they all are turned up kinda like HK....I'm now wondering if maybe the strain likes it a bit cooler than TH and maybe the cup is raising the heat and humidity too much ? I'm not sure.. just thinking out loud to bounce ideas off you guys !.. Damn now if the GardenKnowm would show up and help.. lol.. Anyway its almost lights on and that means time for a morning update.
Post again soon !
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Sorry I didn't answer you there jordan65, umm I do suppose you could get away with 6500K for the entire grow however its not whats recommended as I'm sure you've read on this site before ! The way I'm goin about it is as follows.

For Veg:
Currently - 6 X 26W 6500K & 3 X 26W 2700K ( The reason for both is a more natural spectrum) I could also add more bulbs as the plants get larger however I don't think i'll necessarily need too.

For Flower:
Basically I'm going to keep the same setup just reverse the bulbs ! I already have the bulbs will take 5 minutes to switch it over and go 12/12. Although I'm in the process of building a flowering box so I can use my current one for veg/mother/clone.

Hope that helps man, the reason u use 2700K in flowering is cause there is more of a red spectrum which the plants needs to make good solid buds and resin glands.

Morning update coming as soon as I can upload pics to the server..2 at a time since more than that still doesn't' work..

-Tdot

*edit* PS dude,(Jordan65) I love your Avatar, you gotta email me that so I can use it for my msn display ! lol, thanks

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